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Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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December 26 | 1 | |
January 7 | 1 | |
January 10 | 1 | |
January 14 | 1 | |
January 16 | 2 | |
January 26 | 1 | |
January 28 | ||
January 29 | 1 | 1 |
January 30 | 4 | |
February 1 | 1 | 1 |
February 5 | 2 | |
February 6 | 3 | |
February 7 | 4 | 1 |
February 8 | 1 | |
February 10 | 2 | |
February 13 | 1 | 1 |
February 15 | 5 | 4 |
February 16 | 2 | 2 |
February 17 | 4 | 1 |
February 18 | 8 | 5 |
February 19 | 11 | 7 |
February 20 | 5 | 3 |
February 21 | 11 | 8 |
February 22 | 14 | 12 |
February 23 | 8 | 5 |
February 24 | 9 | 6 |
February 25 | 9 | 7 |
February 26 | 20 | 15 |
February 27 | 15 | 10 |
February 28 | 12 | 6 |
March 1 | 7 | 5 |
March 2 | 23 | 17 |
March 3 | 11 | 6 |
March 4 | 10 | 5 |
March 5 | 21 | 11 |
March 6 | 20 | 6 |
March 7 | 10 | 2 |
March 8 | 10 | 2 |
March 9 | 2 | |
Total | 273 | 149 |
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Nominations[edit]
Older nominations[edit]
Articles created/expanded on December 26[edit]
Epsom College in Malaysia
- ... that Epsom College in Malaysia was the brainchild of Tony Fernandes (pictured)?
- ALTOa ... that Epsom College in Malaysia has been called the brainchild of Tony Fernandes (pictured)?
Source: "Bringing a British Dimension to Malaysia's Education System", expatgo.com, 13 June 2012- ALT1:... that Boris Johnson and Tony Fernandes (pictured) were at the opening ceremony of Epsom College in Malaysia in 2014?
Source: Heidi Salmons, Epsom College’s first overseas campus opens its doors, hmc.org.uk, 7 December 2014
- ALT1:... that Boris Johnson and Tony Fernandes (pictured) were at the opening ceremony of Epsom College in Malaysia in 2014?
- Reviewed: Shanti Stupa, Delhi
- Comment: First nominated on 26 December here
Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 20:02, 10 January 2021 (UTC).
The overall article is new enough and long enough. Regarding neutrality, the first paragraph of Origins feels unencyclopaedic in tone. The Scholarships sentence on a pupil being offered scholarships also feels out of place. On citations, I am wary of expatgo.com, and would prefer to hook from another source. On hooks, ALT0 is currently lacking, but I can see it working with a bit of expansion. ALT1 is hooky if you know who the two individuals are, but would not be otherwise. The sources seem to abbreviate it to ECiM not ECM. CMD (talk) 12:17, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chipmunkdavis: “Regarding neutrality, the first paragraph of Origins feels unencyclopaedic in tone.” It has two sentences. The first of those is strictly factual and seems to me to give the critical fact in the section. The second is about the motivation of Fernandes, based on the source. If there is anything there you find not neutrally written, do please say exactly what it is, and I’ll see how I can improve it. “The Scholarships sentence on a pupil being offered scholarships also feels out of place.” It is an achievement of the school as well as the pupil. Where would you prefer to put that? “On citations, I am wary of expatgo.com...” Expatgo is a publisher in Kuala Lumpur which has been publishing Expat magazine there since 1996, now employing about twenty journalists and editors. Do please say what your objection to it is. “On hooks, ALT0 is currently lacking, but I can see it working with a bit of expansion.” What is it lacking, please, and what would you want to add to it? “ALT1 is hooky if you know who the two individuals are, but would not be otherwise.” Most DYK hooks are about people and topics the world has never heard of, and there is no DYK rule that hooks can only mention famous people. But have you really not heard of Boris Johnson? “The sources seem to abbreviate it to ECiM not ECM”. The school, yes, but not the ECM Libra Foundation, which is not the same thing, see ecmlibrafoundation.com. Moonraker (talk) 00:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- Strictly factual text can be unencyclopaedic in tone, and what is not neutral is the tone of those sentences. They're very promotional, perhaps magazine-like. The scholarships information is also promotionally written, is it needed on the page? Have the expatgo journalists done journalism elsewhere? What is the reputation of the magazine, and/or its credentials? Both hooks are short and rely on name recognition. The source used says "ECiM Libra Foundation co-founder Dato’ Lim Kian Onn...". CMD (talk) 01:57, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chipmunkdavis: “Regarding neutrality, the first paragraph of Origins feels unencyclopaedic in tone.” It has two sentences. The first of those is strictly factual and seems to me to give the critical fact in the section. The second is about the motivation of Fernandes, based on the source. If there is anything there you find not neutrally written, do please say exactly what it is, and I’ll see how I can improve it. “The Scholarships sentence on a pupil being offered scholarships also feels out of place.” It is an achievement of the school as well as the pupil. Where would you prefer to put that? “On citations, I am wary of expatgo.com...” Expatgo is a publisher in Kuala Lumpur which has been publishing Expat magazine there since 1996, now employing about twenty journalists and editors. Do please say what your objection to it is. “On hooks, ALT0 is currently lacking, but I can see it working with a bit of expansion.” What is it lacking, please, and what would you want to add to it? “ALT1 is hooky if you know who the two individuals are, but would not be otherwise.” Most DYK hooks are about people and topics the world has never heard of, and there is no DYK rule that hooks can only mention famous people. But have you really not heard of Boris Johnson? “The sources seem to abbreviate it to ECiM not ECM”. The school, yes, but not the ECM Libra Foundation, which is not the same thing, see ecmlibrafoundation.com. Moonraker (talk) 00:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chipmunkdavis You say Strictly factual text can be unencyclopaedic in tone, and what is not neutral is the tone of those sentences. They're very promotional, perhaps magazine-like. You are entitled to your personal opinion, but in this context please say which element(s) you object to and what conflicts you see with a policy on tone and/or neutrality. The scholarships information is also promotionally written... Again, this is your personal opinion. I have not the slightest interest in promoting anything, the text is simply reflecting the contents of the best source available. ...is it needed on the page? Yes, some information on scholarships is clearly needed for a fee-paying school which can accept non-fee-paying students. Leaving that out would seriously affect the neutrality of the page. Have the expatgo journalists done journalism elsewhere? I have not the slightest idea. What is the reputation of the magazine, and/or its credentials? I can find nothing which casts any doubt on its good reputation. If you want to discredit it, that is surely up to you. Both hooks are short... They are a good length. There is a DYK limit on the length of hooks, but not on shortness. ...and rely on name recognition. I do not agree at all, and even if they did there would be no rule against that. The source used says "ECiM Libra Foundation co-founder Dato’ Lim Kian Onn...". So it does. Clearly both are used, life is like that, not neat and tidy. I have edited “ECM” to “ECiM”. Moonraker (talk) 03:09, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- As a sample element, "the brainchild of Tony Fernandes" is a positive spin lifted directly from the source used. The next sentence is similar, and I can't see what information it really adds to the first sentence. On scholarships, it is a common practice for fee-taking international schools in Southeast Asia to provide scholarships to local students, and so one instance feels unremarkable. CMD (talk) 10:05, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Chipmunkdavis As a sample element, "the brainchild of Tony Fernandes" is a positive spin lifted directly from the source used. You can’t have it both ways, either it is “lifted directly” or else it is “positive spin”. It is indeed lifted directly and is offered as the main hook, which you haven’t objected to, except to claim without any policy support that it isn’t long enough. The next sentence is similar, and I can't see what information it really adds to the first sentence. Not the least bit similar, but to humour you I have taken it out. On scholarships, it is a common practice for fee-taking international schools in Southeast Asia to provide scholarships to local students... It is indeed, but not universal, and the information is needed. ... and so one instance feels unremarkable. There is no policy which insists on everything in an article being remarkable. It has not struck you that 100 per cent scholarships are very unusual, but no matter. I have to say, I am not finding you constructive. If you are feeling so negative, why don’t you start an AfD to try to get the page deleted? Moonraker (talk) 02:51, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- I don't understand that both ways comparison, if you're suggesting magazines cannot spin things positively I will have to disagree. The relevant hook policy is 2.1, interesting to a broad audience. A hook lifted directly from a source also seems an issue for Article 3.3 though, on close paraphrasing. As for deletion, I don't see where the notability of the page has been called into question. Is there an issue there? CMD (talk) 03:25, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Chipmunkdavis I thought you were trying to say it was “positive spin” by me. If you are saying it is “positive spin” by the magazine, I am completely at a loss to see what you mean. The word “brainchild” is simply an Anglo-Saxon form of “conception”. The magazine is saying Fernandes conceived the school in his mind. Other sources say he put a lot of money into it. Where on earth is the “spin” in that, what is being “spun”, and in what way is it too “positive”? You say the relevant policy is interesting to a broad audience, are you now saying that that hook is not interesting enough? If you are, you did not say it to begin with, you had other feeble objections then. ...an issue for Article 3.3 though, on close paraphrasing: no, “the brainchild of Tony Fernandes” is not paraphrased at all, it is a quotation. I am adding ALT0a to make that clearer. Looking over all of the above, you are clutching at a whole series of straws to find reasons to oppose the nomination, and looking for new ones when your first ideas do not hold water. Moonraker (talk) 06:43, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- The initial feeble straws remain the current feeble straws, although some have been dealt with and the copyright issue is new. There is no general preference for opposing nominations. If quotations are used they should be presented as quotations per WP:NFCCP, although the reliance on name recognition remains. On the topic of spin, the magazine is written in WP:NEWSSTYLE, and the article should not imitate that. On another initial comment, reading into the various sources in the scholarship section, they actually discuss the same scholarships, and so I am happy to c/e myself from the sources to maintain the information you feel needs mentioning. CMD (talk) 07:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Chipmunkdavis, I am glad you agree your objections are feeble. If you mean quotation marks should be added, you could have said that a long time ago and didn’t. I do not see any need but have added them as it is such a trivial point. It is quite normal for magazine articles to be written in NEWSSTYLE, and the article plainly does not "imitate" that, that is just subjective rubbish plucked out of the air. I do not understand your last sentence. You seem to be here only to play games, and I suggest you should bow out. Moonraker (talk) 05:14, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Chipmunkdavis, that’s plainly not so. The article has two short quotations from the Expatgo article, which were there when you made your first comments, and you didn’t object to them. There is no “imitation” of NEWSSTYLE or anything else. Your nit-picking is the most extreme I have seen from a DYK reviewer in ten years, and that is what remains. When one nit-pick fails to hold water, you look for another. Moonraker (talk) 05:59, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Chipmunkdavis, that expression “lifting some text from the source” is a weird turn of phrase to mean “quotation”, and it is helpful in showing just how hostile you are to something here, I don’t know what. At least you accept that it is a new nit-pick you have added. I see no point in repeating anything said above. If you are not going to bow out, we now need an experienced DYK contributor to look over the thread. Perhaps BlueMoonset can spare the time for it? Moonraker (talk) 06:21, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Any updates on this? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:58, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Narutolovehinata5, the situation does not appear to have changed. CMD (talk) 14:17, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Given that it appears that this nomination has reached a deadlock and the nominator and reviewer cannot come to an agreement, I would suggest that a new reviewer take a look here. If the issues remain unaddressed within a reasonable time frame the nomination may need to be closed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:24, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Blimey! Basic points such as length already covered & some of the review points now dealt with. Others remain, & most of the sources read like PR people dictating to journalists, but the school only opened last year. I think all 3 hooks pass, but ALT1 is probably best. Really the lead is much too short & the whole thing should be merged into say 4 sections. But I'll call it GTG. Johnbod (talk) 01:07, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi there. Just a few concerns about this nomination. ALT0 and ALT0a are derived from an ExpatGo article, and there's note at the bottom of that article indicating that it's a press release from Epsom College. Therefore, it likely counts as a primary (WP:PRIMARY) and non-independent (WP:NIS) source. ALT1 is sourced to an HMC blog post and an Epsom College press release, both of which I would consider primary and non-independent for similar reasons. Edge3 (talk) 18:42, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Edge3, on Expatgo, I do not see what you see, except that there are contact details for the school. The article may or may not be based on a press release, but I imagine it was kicked off by one. Expatgo has journalists and editors and is a reliable source. I agree that oeclub.org is a primary source. You could call HMC a kind of trade association, but it is reliable on facts. I have checked out HMC and Heidi Salmons, and she was its Communications Manager at the time this was posted. If we were talking about notability, some of these sources could not be counted towards that, but even a primary source can be relied on to cite facts. Moonraker (talk) 20:56, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 7[edit]
Usmani family of Deoband
- ...
that the father and uncle of Mahmud Hasan Deobandi from the Usmani family of Deoband were co-founders of Darul Uloom Deoband? Source: [1]- ALT1:... that Fazlur Rahman Usmani, the father of Aziz-ur-Rahman Usmani and Shabbir Ahmad Usmani, from the Usmani family of Deoband, was a co-founder of Darul Uloom Deoband? Source: [2]
- ALT2:... that Nehal Ahmad, a member of the Usmani family of Deoband and the grandfather of Zafar Ahmad Usmani was a co-founder of Darul Uloom Deoband? Source: [3]
- ALT3:... that four members of the Usmani family of Deoband were co-founders of Darul Uloom Deoband? Source: [4][5][6]
- ALT4:... that Atiqur Rahman Usmani, a member of Usmani family of Deoband co-founded Nadwatul Musannifeen and All India Muslim Majlis-e-Mushawarat? Source: [7]
ALT5:... that Shabbir Ahmad Usmani and Zafar Ahmad Usmani, who hoisted the flags of Pakistan in Karachi and Dhaka in 1947 in the presence of Muhammad Ali Jinnah, belonged to the Usmani family of Deoband. Source:[8]
Created by TheAafi (talk). Self-nominated at 19:17, 7 January 2021 (UTC).
- This is more of a comment but right now none of the proposed hooks may appeal to an international audience except perhaps for some variant of ALT5. Would it be possible to write a hook that would be understood and interesting even to people outside of Pakistan who may not be familiar with any of the names or events mentioned in the article? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, I guess yes. I'll take some time for this. I know that ALT5 only can make a way out, but I was waiting for a review. Allow me some time. ─ The Aafī (talk) 05:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Are you able to finish a review? @TheAafi: Do you need help or clarification? I'm not sure if you were able to work on your hooks. Let your reviewer know if you need help. Edge3 (talk) 04:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- As I noted above, I wouldn't be able to do a full review of this due to a lack of time; however I'm willing to help out with sorting out any hook and hook interest issues. I see that the nominator suggested a new hook below, but the hoisting-the-flag angle will need to have some additional context for non-Pakistani readers. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, Do you think, for example, if we say, Shabbir Ahmad Usmani and Zafar Ahmad Usmani, Islamic scholars from the Deoband India based Usmani family of Deoband hoisted the flags of Pakistan in 1947 in Karachi and Dhaka respectively? Or something so. I'd try to fix it. I don't understand how I can provide a more better context for non-Pakistani readers? ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 06:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm really not sure but I'm leaning towards against. Maybe Edge3 has some ideas? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, Do you think, for example, if we say, Shabbir Ahmad Usmani and Zafar Ahmad Usmani, Islamic scholars from the Deoband India based Usmani family of Deoband hoisted the flags of Pakistan in 1947 in Karachi and Dhaka respectively? Or something so. I'd try to fix it. I don't understand how I can provide a more better context for non-Pakistani readers? ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 06:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- As I noted above, I wouldn't be able to do a full review of this due to a lack of time; however I'm willing to help out with sorting out any hook and hook interest issues. I see that the nominator suggested a new hook below, but the hoisting-the-flag angle will need to have some additional context for non-Pakistani readers. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- This is more of a comment but right now none of the proposed hooks may appeal to an international audience except perhaps for some variant of ALT5. Would it be possible to write a hook that would be understood and interesting even to people outside of Pakistan who may not be familiar with any of the names or events mentioned in the article? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Edge3, I think I won't be able to work on this due some circumstances. Facing an electricity cut-off since few days as well, and different other issues. If @Narutolovehinata5: can help me fixing the hook, I'd try to provide and fix the sources? This is all I can fix for the Alt5? The reference states that they hoisted the flags, and other sources in the article, including those added in this nomination, source it that they belonged to this family. I find this as interesting because the members of this family established not only Darul Uloom Deoband but two members were founders of Jamia Millia Islamia as well, a DYK appeared about another member, Kafilur Rahman Nishat Usmani, founding figures of Pakistan. Thus seems to me an interesting fact about the history of Indian subcontinent. Ideas? ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 04:35, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
...that Shabbir Ahmad Usmani and Zafar Ahmad Usmani, who hoisted the flags of Pakistan in Karachi and Dhaka in 1947 belonged to the Usmani family of Deoband? Source:[9]
- Comment, Reply to the query that names & events in this might not be known internationally, no, they are, be it Mahmud Hasan Deobandi, Shabbir Ahmad Usmani, Muhammad Shafi Deobandi, Muhammad Taqi Usmani or institutions like Darul Uloom Deoband or Jamia Millia Islamia; issues around this family are well known, and highly respected in the Islamic history. In the Jamia Millia Islamia, we've one gate named after Mahmud Hasan Deobandi, similarly literal works of the members of this family are widely known in UK, India, Pakistan, America, Africa and another places. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 04:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Edge3: do you have something to say now? The reviewer has left the issue to you.─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 08:14, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think the main issue here is that non-Pakistani readers won't be able to get exactly what this "flag raising" thing is all about and why it was important. The context is missing, the hook would be fine otherwise. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 how's this then? ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 10:36, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think the main issue here is that non-Pakistani readers won't be able to get exactly what this "flag raising" thing is all about and why it was important. The context is missing, the hook would be fine otherwise. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- ... that Islamic scholars Shabbir Ahmad Usmani and Zafar Ahmad Usmani, who after the Creation of Pakistan in 1947, hoisted its flags in Karachi and Dhaka, belonged to the Usmani family of Deoband?
- At 192 characters, it's a bit on the upper end of an allowed hook length and could still be shortened if possible, but among the directions proposed so far this is perhaps the most promising. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 Thanks for the heads up. I guess I won't be able to shorten it, if yes, we could remove the "Islamic scholars" thing. Helpful? I'm on mobile and I feel hard to write here. If it is more promising than all the earlier tries, may you approve this now with slight modifications on your own? Thanks. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 10:43, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- At 192 characters, it's a bit on the upper end of an allowed hook length and could still be shortened if possible, but among the directions proposed so far this is perhaps the most promising. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- ALT6:... that four members of the Usmani family of Deoband were co-founders of Darul Uloom Deoband, where the Deobandi movement began? (adaptation of ALT3). Narutolovehinata5, whether or not you have heard of it, the Deobandi movement is very well known in many parts of the world outside Pakistan, & should be the key to the hook imo. Haven't checked if the refs given above support the added bit. Johnbod (talk) 03:31, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Is there a way to rephrase ALT6? The current version feels a bit repetitive wording-wise. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:52, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Johnbod:, looks fine to me. The sourcing is offline and Urdu-based, I'd request AGF. Among those four are, Fazlur Rahman Usmani, Zulfiqar Ali Deobandi, the father of Mahmud Hasan Deobandi, Nehal Ahmad, the brother-in-law of Muhammad Qasim Nanautawi and Mehtab Ali, the uncle of Mahmud Hasan Deobandi. Everything such is also individually referenced in the article as well. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 06:05, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Is there a way to rephrase ALT6? The current version feels a bit repetitive wording-wise. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:52, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Given the comment above: ALT7:... that four members of the Usmani family were co-founders of Darul Uloom Deoband university, where the Deobandi movement began? Johnbod (talk) 17:28, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Johnbod, university is a bad idea for it, it is better called a seminary. So I propose it as:
- ALT7a:... that four members of the Usmani family were co-founders of Darul Uloom Deoband seminary, where the Deobandi movement began? ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 19:25, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ Iqbal Hasan Khān, Shaykh al-Hind Mawlāna Mahmūd Hasan: Hayāt awr Ilmi Kārnāme, Aligarh Muslim University, p. 116
- ^ Muhammad Tayyib, Qari. Bukhari, Akbar Shah (ed.). 50 Misaali Shaksiyaat [50 Exemplar personalities] (in Urdu) (July 1999 ed.). pp. 58–59.
- ^ Muhammad Miyan Deobandi, Ulama-e-Haqq Aur Unke Mujahidana Karname, 1, pp. 22–23
- ^ Iqbal Hasan Khān, Shaykh al-Hind Mawlāna Mahmūd Hasan: Hayāt awr Ilmi Kārnāme, Aligarh Muslim University, p. 116
- ^ Muhammad Tayyib, Qari. Bukhari, Akbar Shah (ed.). 50 Misaali Shaksiyaat [50 Exemplar personalities] (in Urdu) (July 1999 ed.). pp. 58–59.
- ^ Muhammad Miyan Deobandi, Ulama-e-Haqq Aur Unke Mujahidana Karname, 1, pp. 22–23
- ^ Mehdi, Jameel (ed.). "Atiqur Rahman Usmani (1901-1984)". Mufakkir-e-Millat Number, Burhan (November 1987 ed.). Delhi: Nadwatul Musannifeen. pp. 506–507.
- ^ https://dailytimes.com.pk/324380/asia-bibi-pakistanis-need-to-bridge-the-mister-mulla-divide/
- ^ https://dailytimes.com.pk/324380/asia-bibi-pakistanis-need-to-bridge-the-mister-mulla-divide/
Articles created/expanded on January 10[edit]
Everard F. Aguilar
- ... that stamp dealer Everard F. Aguilar proposed that the Jamaican Post Office issue stamps to mark the death of James Bond creator Ian Fleming but the idea was not accepted?
- ALT1:... that stamp dealer Everard F. Aguilar wrote a chapter on Jamaican postage stamps for James Bond creator Ian Fleming's guide to Jamaica?
- Reviewed: Dog & Bull
- Comment: Still working on it. Part of the career section was copied from Philip Saunders but there is sufficient new material for a new DYK
Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 15:58, 17 January 2021 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: ALT0 is fine, and has an online citation ("Between the devil and the deep blue sea") in the text. However there are minor issues.
1. Regarding the language and citation of ALT1: its language is unclear to me. I had to read the article and the citation ("Between the Devil") to work out that it meant that Aguilar had contributed one of the chapters in the book which was written by Fleming. On re-reading ALT1, yes the hook does say that, but it's not clear at first glance. It just needs to be clearer and simpler. 2. Also, ALT1 is not written out in the same way in the text with its citation next to it, so if ALT1 is to have a chance, you must do that. 3. The phrase, "third and youngest son" rings the plagiarism bell (re The Daily Gleaner: "Mr Everard Aguilar dies") - OK no-one would sue WP for that, but to get it through DYK you need to rephrase it. 4. QPQ pending. Apart from those minor issues, which are easily remedied, this is a nice article, and I thank you for this. I like the way that you make his difficult personality clear, while keeping the article neutral - I think all the best biogs are like that. Keep up the good work! Storye book (talk) 15:40, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, I am looking into the Fleming connection and will expand on it shortly. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:45, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the QPQ; I've adjusted the review accordingly. I've also struck out point 1, regarding the clarity of ALT1 - I think I was being too picky. I look forward to seeing the other issues resolved - that should be quite straightforward. Storye book (talk) 09:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Placing a hold on this nomination until Philafrenzy completes their review at Template:Did you know nominations/Dele Fadele; that QPQ was assigned to a nomination of theirs that has been promoted despite being incomplete. Once that review is done, this can be promoted, but not until. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- BlueMoonset Philafrenzy continued the review and the nominator is working on fixing the issues. I think it might be considered complete enough now. SL93 (talk) 08:36, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- This review is not resolved yet, and it would be good to complete this one. Issue 2 could be resolved quickly if ALT1 is struck out and we just use ALT0. Issue 3 is very minor indeed, and could be resolved by rephrasing or deleting "third and youngest son" - or "third son"/"youngest son" would do. Philafrenzy? Storye book (talk) 10:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Storye book I know that this review isn't resolved. SL93 (talk) 11:12, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- No worries. I was just attempting to remind the nominator and to make things as easy as possible for them. Storye book (talk) 11:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Storye book Sorry for not understanding. SL93 (talk) 11:19, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's fine. Peace and love. Storye book (talk) 11:49, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- It shall have my attention shortly. Philafrenzy (talk) 15:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- BlueMoonset Philafrenzy continued the review and the nominator is working on fixing the issues. I think it might be considered complete enough now. SL93 (talk) 08:36, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the QPQ; I've adjusted the review accordingly. I've also struck out point 1, regarding the clarity of ALT1 - I think I was being too picky. I look forward to seeing the other issues resolved - that should be quite straightforward. Storye book (talk) 09:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 14[edit]
Turkey and the Holocaust
- ... that Turkey has used Holocaust commemoration to deny both the Armenian Genocide and antisemitism in Turkey? Source: Quotes from Turkish officials: "In our history, there does not exist any genocide." "Turkish society has always been away from anti-Semitic feelings [sic], has never shown any feelings of anti-Semitism and xenophobia. Our people has [sic] always embraced their Jewish brothers." https://doi.org/10.1111%2Fsocf.12521
Analysis by Baer: Beginning in 2014, Turkish Jewish community leaders have been joined in their annual Holocaust commemoration by high-ranking Turkish officials who have used the occasion each year to promote the image of Turks as rescuers of Jews, from 1492 through to World War II. Playing the part of Jewish savior against the tide of genocide, the Turkish government can vaunt its pride and claim never to have engaged in such historical crimes, thereby denying, sometimes obliquely, sometimes explicitly, the annihilation of the Ottoman Armenians. — Baer 2020 p. 207
"A second theme, unique to the Turkish case, is the determination to deny the Armenian genocide by acknowledging the Holocaust." https://pen.org/professional-ethics-and-the-denial-of-armenian-genocide/
Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 18:06, 14 January 2021 (UTC).
- buidhe This does not look like a neutral hook. Many hooks can be made on this article that are both interesting and neutral.VR talk 03:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- There is no requirement for hooks to follow NPOV. See WP:DYKRULES. It is factual and sourced to RS which is what matters. (t · c) buidhe 03:47, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- If you go to WP:DYKRULES and look under "Content", it says
The hook should be neutral
.VR talk 04:05, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- How is it non-neutral? It is just a fact. One that doesn't reflect well on Turkey, but many hooks don't reflect well on their subjects and have always been allowed on DYK. (t · c) buidhe 04:10, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Now that's a tricky one. I understand the NPOV concern and believe Vice regent is right about pointing to the DYK rules; but on the other hand after reading the article I believe the statement in the hook is correct, Turkey seems to do that (at least according to the sources in the article). So I would personally have difficulties wording the hook another way to present Turkey in a better light. @Vice regent could you maybe think of an example alternate hook that would satisfy NPOV for you? (Caveat: I am really not an expert on the subject, just a random Wikipedian chiming in.) --LordPeterII (talk) 15:27, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- If you go to WP:DYKRULES and look under "Content", it says
- My previous hooks have often portrayed various institutions, people, or countries in a negative light. Just a few examples,
- "that memorial director Jens-Christian Wagner blames Alternative for Germany for the increase in heckling at former Nazi concentration camps in recent years?"[1]
- "that in September 2019, far-right politician Milan Mazurek became the first Slovak parliamentarian to lose his seat due to a crime after comparing Romani children to "animals in the zoo"?"[2]
- "that after the Greek Civil War, 20,000 leftists were exiled to Gyaros (pictured), dubbed "Dachau of the Mediterranean"?"[3]
- "... that the European Commission of Human Rights found in 1969 that the Greek junta systematically tortured dissidents, leading to Greece's exit from the Council of Europe?"[4]
- " ... that the Israeli Nazis and Nazi Collaborators (Punishment) Law was intended to punish Holocaust survivors rather than Holocaust perpetrators?"[5]
- "that death squad commander Otto Ohlendorf claimed that the extermination of 90,000 Jewish men, women, and children was a justified act of self-defense?"[6]
- Generally, the only negative hooks that were rejected were for BLP reasons. I don't really see NPOV as something that occurs in isolation for one fact or sentence, rather for an article as a whole, but I proposed hook ALT0 as I found it the most interesting element of the article. (t · c) buidhe 18:16, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
buidhe and LordPeterII How about something that actually discusses Turkey's WWII policies and considers both sides of the story:
- Alt1: ... that during World War II Turkey helped thousands of European Jews escape the Holocaust even as it enacted a law that discriminated against Turkish Jews?
- This is interesting because it shows the contradicting nature of Turkish policies. It also shows the good and the bad that Turkey did to Jews during WWII.
- Source:
"In November 1942, the [Turkish] government introduced a Property Tax (Varlιk Vergisi) ...[which effectively discriminated against Jews]. Meanwhile, and quite paradoxically, Turkish intervention saved many thousands of eastern European Jews from the Holocaust, by aiding their clandestine immigration into Palestine. There thus seems to have been a complete disconnect between internal and external policies.
William Hale (professor), Turkish Foreign Policy since 1774, page 67VR talk 17:54, 19 January 2021 (UTC)- Not suitable, as I explained on talk, "saved" is not a WP:IMPARTIAL way to characterize giving a limited number of transit visas. Nor is it particularly interesting or unusual because that also Spain's policy at the same time was not dissimilar, although in the spanish case the laws discriminating against non-Catholics were passed before wwii. (t · c) buidhe 18:17, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- I have trouble understanding buidhe's comments. 1. The word "saved" only applies to the indicated "saved" people. So the fact that it is a "limited number" is not an issue - the number is indicated. There is no statement that all were saved. 2. The fact that Spain - not a Muslim country - had a similar approach does not as buidhe suggests make it not "particularly interesting or unusual". 2603:7000:2143:8500:6960:9DFE:CAD2:CC8E (talk) 19:16, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- If you read other books that focus on this topic, such as Tuvia Friling's Arrows in the Dark, you would find that all of these transits were organized and paid for not by Turkey but by Jewish organizations, who faced many restrictions in their work. Furthermore, if you are going to contrast the transit visa issue with another Turkish policy, surely it would be denaturalization. (t · c) buidhe 19:23, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, now Vice regent your suggestion is problematic in the exact opposite direction: If buidhe's original hook shows Turkey in a negative light, yours show it in a very positive. I mean, if they enacted laws to discriminate against Jews, but then saved lots anyway, surely the law was more of a farce? (At least it sounds like that imo.)
- More importantly, ALT1 does contradict the article, as both the lede and the history section quite explicitly state that Turkey did not actively seek to rescue/save Jews, and rather let them pass through at best. There are notable examples, sure, but your hook would suggest it was a general and official rescue scheme. Especially this part of the lede, "Turkey and parts of the Turkish Jewish community have promoted exaggerated claims of rescuing Jews", is such a sentence as it directly contradicts the message of ALT1.
- I understand that this is a delicate topic, and I admit that I do not have nearly enough knowledge about it (or time to acquire it) to weigh in on the neutrality discussion about the article itself. My argumentation thus will revolve solely around the eligibility of hooks for the current article.
- Going back to the original hook ALT0, I must say that I am convinced by buidhe's point that they had previously gotten hooks approved that are quite critical - not unlike ALT0. Now I have previously made the mistake of invoking WP:OSE, but I do not believe this is the case here: If the DYK rules allowed several hooks to be approved that were critical extremely of Greece and Israel, why would a hook critical of Turkey be disallowed?
- So in conclusion, while I value the discussion and still agree that we must be careful not to break NPOV, I do not think that this is actually the case with ALT0. Instead, ALT1 is unsuitable because it contradicts the article (in its current form). Maybe you two will want to discuss the neutrality of the article itself first (and I see at least one uninvolved editor has weighed in there), and then this DYK discussion can resume once we know what the hook should be compared against. --LordPeterII (talk) 11:36, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 16[edit]
March of the Indonesian National Armed Forces
- ... that the March of the Indonesian National Armed Forces was the first march composed by Addie MS? Source: #2 in the article
Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 14:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
- Interesting:
- Sorry, I don't find anything particularly hook-y about this being Addie MS's first march. I don't think most readers will know who he is, and I'm not really sure what it means that this is his first march.
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Sources accepted in good faith since I can't read Indonesian and am not familiar enough with the media landscape there to judge their reliability. Earwig turns up no violation. Neutrality seems fine, although a glance from someone familiar with Indonesian politics couldn't hurt. The main issue is just interestingness, as we want a hook that'll actually entice people to click through to the article. Reading it over, the most interesting factoid to me was that the previous march was retired after being unused due to constant mocking by activists. I'd suggest adding a little more information on that and then using it as the basis for the hook. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:26, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the March of the Indonesian National Armed Forces was adopted after the previous march was retired due to mocking and parodying by activists?
- How does this sound? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:15, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, the nominator is on a wikibreak (enforced by a self-requested block), so someone else may need to step up to get this on the main page. I'd like to see more contextual information on the page itself, since currently it doesn't say why or how the previous song was mocked, and if we're using this as a hook we should allow people who click through to learn that. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 01:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- I've left a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indonesia asking for help. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:19, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 and Sdkb: Really sorry to both of you; I forgot that I have a DYK review left open! I've unblocked myself for this occasion, and I searched for another source. I found a really interesting article from Kompas (I could send it to you if you want) and added some more text and information from the source. It turns out that the retirement of the march due to mocking was just an allegation from the author and was not the official stance of the armed forces. I also found the sheet music of the song, but it is quite blurry and I can't see anything. Probably someone who is expert in music could recognize the musical symbols immediately. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 05:07, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Where does the nomination stand now? SL93 (talk) 08:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Pinging @Narutolovehinata5:. jp×g 22:52, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Where does the nomination stand now? SL93 (talk) 08:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 and Sdkb: Really sorry to both of you; I forgot that I have a DYK review left open! I've unblocked myself for this occasion, and I searched for another source. I found a really interesting article from Kompas (I could send it to you if you want) and added some more text and information from the source. It turns out that the retirement of the march due to mocking was just an allegation from the author and was not the official stance of the armed forces. I also found the sheet music of the song, but it is quite blurry and I can't see anything. Probably someone who is expert in music could recognize the musical symbols immediately. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 05:07, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- I've left a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indonesia asking for help. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:19, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, the nominator is on a wikibreak (enforced by a self-requested block), so someone else may need to step up to get this on the main page. I'd like to see more contextual information on the page itself, since currently it doesn't say why or how the previous song was mocked, and if we're using this as a hook we should allow people who click through to learn that. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 01:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
@JPxG: I didn't receive any ping since I'm Sdkb, not Skdb (a common mistake; potential solution was discussed a while back with Ovinus), but luckily I spotted this by chance. To follow up, it looks like the new wording of the article doesn't establish in wikivoice that the reason for retiring the anthem was the mocking, so we'd need to rephrase the blurb to reflect that it's a contested claim. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 07:40, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- How about this?
- ALT1a ... that the March of the Indonesian National Armed Forces was adopted after the previous march fell into disuse due to mocking and parodying by activists?
- This new wording doesn't mention that the mocking was the direct cause of the retirement, merely reflecting the article which states that the march became rarely used due to the aforementioned reasons. Other possible wordings could include replacing "fell into disuse" with "fell out of favor" or "became rarely used". Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Does the sourcing support "due to" for the fell out of favor? The sentence cites a source which I've Google translated here, but having trouble finding the quote. As a less assertive alternative, we could use "fell into disuse following mocking and parodying by activists". "Due to" would be better if we can establish it, though. Are there any Indonesian-speaking folks at DYK? {{u|Sdkb}} talk 01:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- How about this?
Dele Fadele
- ... that although the Nigerian-English music journalist Dele Fadele died in August 2018, his passing was not well-known until two years later? Jonze, Tim. "'He was a groundbreaker and a visionary': music writer Dele Fadele remembered". The Guardian, 14 September 2020
Created by Ceoil (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 18 January 2021 (UTC).
- Reviewed: In the Night (ballet)
- Beginning Review
- Article is new enough and long enough.
- Hook is correctly formatted.
- Should "extensive" pieces be "long" or "detailed"?
- This sentence seems confused: "He was gregarious in life; according to Andrew Collins, in the 1990s Fadele arrived at the NME office each morning from a squat, but was always "absolutely impassioned"."
- New Order need disambiguating.
- linked to New Order (band) Ceoil (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- Could you add anything about his early life? The article seems to start when he is already in his 30s.
- Well referenced and neutral. Long book may as well be put with the other sources as it is only used once (needs a page number).
- Hook fact needs a ref immediately after (I added CN in the place)
- Is it true that Morrissey's career "never really recovered"? Not according to our article on him.
- Awaiting QPQ.
Will finish later. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:17, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Phil...I see you took care of a lot of these yourself. Will comb through and sort the remainder, and come back after a QPQ. Ceoil (talk) 20:25, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- Philafrenzy, the QPQ has been provided. Please return to complete your review, since you have already claimed QPQ credit for it on an article that has since been promoted. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:41, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
- Continuing review. Not sure about Nigerian-English in the hook. He was born in Highbury, London, and spent his career in England too. I would call him Black British or just drop his nationality/ethnicity from the hook entirely as it doesn't add much. What about saying that the death of NME music critic (or journalist) Dele Fadele wasn't well-known for more than two years after the event? Could be stronger if you could say it wasn't known to his own colleagues for two years? Only Earwig matches are quotes and titles. Other issues dealt with. Will tick once hook finalised. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:53, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, agree with these, will ping when done, and thanks for adding the photograph! Ceoil (talk) 12:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ceoil, it's been over seven days, and nothing's been done here and nor to the article. Are you planning to return to this soon, or have you decided not to pursue the nomination? BlueMoonset (talk) 15:25, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 26[edit]
Old-age-security hypothesis
- ... that there is a hypothesis that the refusal of the state from old-age benefits increases the birth rate and the well-being of the country?
- Reviewed: (exempt)
Created/expanded by Vyacheslav84 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:09, 26 January 2021 (UTC).
- Comment (not a review). The article does not support the hook, in several important ways. (1) It is about a decrease in fertility caused by adding pensions, not about an increase in fertility caused by removing them. The phrasing in the hook, suggesting that cutting pensions will cause fertility to go back up is an inference (WP:SYNTH) rather than something directly supported by the sources in the article. (2) Linking Welfare state to "well-being of the country" is a violation of WP:SUBMARINE. (3) There is zero support in the article for the claim in the hook that cutting pensions will increase well-being. It links low pensions to "overall income growth" but that is hardly the same thing as well-being. The only connection to well-being is an opposite one to what is in the hook: "although it increases household savings". The article is also quite problematic in its context-free presentation of various opinions with no evaluation of what local circumstances they are based on or how widespread those opinions are, and in its base assumptions that greater fertility is a greater good and that individual hardship (based for instance on involuntary childlessness) can be ignored. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:52, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
- Your suggestions for the wording? — Vyacheslav84 (talk) 07:36, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Adding pensions cuts fertility? — Vyacheslav84 (talk) 08:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- "the refusal of the state from old-age benefits..." is downright ungrammatical anyway. What does it mean? Johnbod (talk) 03:36, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 28[edit]
Articles created/expanded on January 30[edit]
Herr, unser Herr, wie bist du zugegen
... that "Herr, unser Herr, wie bist du zugegen" is a German hymn translating a Dutch "Lied van Gods aanwezigheid" (song of God's presence)" written in 1965 by Huub Oosterhuis (pictured)?Source: [7], [8]
- Reviewed: Frances C. Fairman
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:54, 5 February 2021 (UTC).
- This is only a comment, but perhaps a hook based on the proposal to ban the song from the 2013 edition of the hymnal that had it would be more interesting than it saying that it is a German translation of another song? The efforts to ban it and subsequent pushback sound more eye-catching to be honest. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Go ahead, I was tired when I wrote it, and have work waiting. The especially quirky thing is that the Dutch author received a German sermon prize only a few years after the "ban" discussion, but I couldn't get it all in. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Reading through the article, I'm confused as to who was the one who left the Catholic Church: was it Oosterhuis or Huijbers? The article wording makes it ambiguous. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:10, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I repeated Oosterhuis, but don't think that a composer's turning away would have caused the same conflict. Also, the composer didn't head a church. For a hook, I'm reluctant to say too much about the author - vs. the text of this hymn which is the subject. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that a proposal to remove "Herr, unser Herr, wie bist du zugegen" and other hymns from a 2013 hymnal because their
composerwriter (pictured) had left Catholicism was met with backlash from German parishes?
- ALT1 ... that a proposal to remove "Herr, unser Herr, wie bist du zugegen" and other hymns from a 2013 hymnal because their
- How does this sound? Unfortunately, mentioning Oosterhuis by name would have meant the hook would go beyond 200 characters so I had to leave it out and include a piped link instead. As for the award angle, that sounds good, but it appears that he received that award for his work in general as opposed to for this hymn specifically. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Good try, but he was the author, not the composer, it couldn't be removed from the 2013 edition which didn't exist yet, and the same - not only this hymn - could be said against it. How is this: I write about another of his works, and then we try the approach? For this hymn, I'd really like the "God's presence" meaning, in memory of a friend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:21, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- I repeated Oosterhuis, but don't think that a composer's turning away would have caused the same conflict. Also, the composer didn't head a church. For a hook, I'm reluctant to say too much about the author - vs. the text of this hymn which is the subject. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Reading through the article, I'm confused as to who was the one who left the Catholic Church: was it Oosterhuis or Huijbers? The article wording makes it ambiguous. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:10, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- This is only a comment, but perhaps a hook based on the proposal to ban the song from the 2013 edition of the hymnal that had it would be more interesting than it saying that it is a German translation of another song? The efforts to ban it and subsequent pushback sound more eye-catching to be honest. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Full review needed, during which the reviewer can request or suggest additional hooks. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- It doesn't seem clear from the article if "Herr" was one of the songs that were planned to be removed from the 2013 edition, so clarification on this information is needed if the angle is to be used. If it wasn't, then this angle could probably be dropped and a different direction be used. As for the "it couldn't be removed from the 2013 edition" part, as I understand from the article, the proposal was to remove his songs from the revision planned for publication in 2013. Was this indeed the case? If so, I don't understand how "remove from a 2013 hymnal" is inaccurate, because it was still discussing about a proposal related to the 2013 version. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:16, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:10, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- The original hook avoids all this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:21, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Even if ALT1 or a variant thereof isn't used, it remains an article concern that would need to be addressed if the nomination is to be approved, regardless of what hook is ultimately promoted. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:45, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- That hook is too straightforward and "DYK that X is a Y" hooks have been discouraged in the past, at least from experience. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:51, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Then how about an exception? The German-Dutch thing is not usual. I wrote in memory of a friend who picked it for the last service he held. I don't need anything spectacular or quirky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:11, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- If the nomination was written in memory of a friend then perhaps any hook about the subject could suffice rather than a specific wording, if the goal was to have the hymn featured on DYK. I understand that you want the "God's presence" wording highlighted, but it appears difficult to write a hook focusing on that angle. Also asking for a hook that isn't quirky goes against the spirit of DYK, which aims to entice broad readership to read an article and not just appeal to only its nominator. In any case, if some variant of ALT0 is to be used, then it would need to be rewritten as the current version is rather dry. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:45, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think you don't understand me, probably my fault. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:15, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Waiving the interestingness criterion per IAR, especially if it's for a personal reason, may not be the best option since it could be seen as unfair to other editors who do try to meet it in their hooks. The other criteria (such as expansion times and nomination dates) have tended to be waived under understandable circumstances, but the interestingness criterion is something I have never seen being waived (while there have been disputes in the past about if a hook is interesting or not, I cannot recall cases where the criterion itself was ignored). I understand it's due to a desire to serve as a tribute for a deceased friend, but perhaps there's still a way to do this while still meeting DYK guidelines? As for the original hook, I've had to strike it as I just can't see a path forward for the current wording, although the possibility of a revised hook focusing on the "Dutch-translated-to-German" angle remains there. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think you don't understand me, probably my fault. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:15, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- If the nomination was written in memory of a friend then perhaps any hook about the subject could suffice rather than a specific wording, if the goal was to have the hymn featured on DYK. I understand that you want the "God's presence" wording highlighted, but it appears difficult to write a hook focusing on that angle. Also asking for a hook that isn't quirky goes against the spirit of DYK, which aims to entice broad readership to read an article and not just appeal to only its nominator. In any case, if some variant of ALT0 is to be used, then it would need to be rewritten as the current version is rather dry. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:45, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Then how about an exception? The German-Dutch thing is not usual. I wrote in memory of a friend who picked it for the last service he held. I don't need anything spectacular or quirky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:11, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- The original hook avoids all this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:21, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:10, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- It doesn't seem clear from the article if "Herr" was one of the songs that were planned to be removed from the 2013 edition, so clarification on this information is needed if the angle is to be used. If it wasn't, then this angle could probably be dropped and a different direction be used. As for the "it couldn't be removed from the 2013 edition" part, as I understand from the article, the proposal was to remove his songs from the revision planned for publication in 2013. Was this indeed the case? If so, I don't understand how "remove from a 2013 hymnal" is inaccurate, because it was still discussing about a proposal related to the 2013 version. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:16, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
obliging, but having to break one of my rules, which is to begin with the bolded term:
- ALT2: ... that a 1965 Dutch song by Huub Oosterhuis (pictured), titled for the presence of God's, is still part of the 2013 Catholic German hymnal as "Herr, unser Herr, wie bist du zugegen"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
I removed above what should have remained private. What's interesting to one is not always interesting to another, and reducing to what will be interesting to most reduces our possibilities and options for something away from mainstream. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
COVID vaccine dispute
- ... that during a vaccine dispute, the European Union was accused of "an absolutely incredible act of hostility" by Arlene Foster, Northern Ireland's first minister?
- Reviewed: Gabriel Sterling
Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk) and Dumelow (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 07:32, 3 February 2021 (UTC).
Whether relevant or not for DYK I have concerns this article has not been expanded to cover some of the fallout from this dispute (I'm unsure if this affects DYK). This includes: fallout impact on the ramifications of threat of revoking Article 16 (e.g.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55882140) ; the impact of the threat of export controls ; where the 9m doses have been magic'd from (I think I read AZ had procured extra capacity); Questions about more UK support for Valneva vaccine rather than EU/French support; pressure on Commission President Ursula von der Leyen .... I'm too tied RL currently to try to expand article which could be controversial but it probably needs nuturing and expansion in my view. It also really needs a Template:Gs/talk notice for covid if chosen for DYK. Otherwise probably has merits for DYK but DYK is not a zone I follow or know much about. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk)
In response to Djm-leighpark's concerns, no, that is of no relevance to the DYK nomination. What is of relevance is the merge tag. That needs to be resolved before this nomination goes anywhere. Please place a
{{subst:DYK?again}}
tag once that's resolved. Schwede66 01:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)The merger suggestion has been resolved. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Jane Lunnon
- ... that in January 2021 Jane Lunnon became the first woman head of Alleyn's School, Dulwich, since it was separated from the College of God's Gift in 1882?
Sources: (1) "Jane Lunnon", kesw.org
(2) J. R. Piggott, Dulwich College, a history 1616–2008 (2008), pp. 120-122- ALT1:... that Jane Lunnon won the 2020 Tatler Schools Award for "Best head of a public school", against competition from the heads of Stowe, Gresham's, Giggleswick, and Downe House?
Sources: "Tatler’s top prep and public schools announced Find out who the nominees are for this year’s Tatler Schools Awards", Tatler, 24 September 2020; "See all the winners of the Tatler Schools Awards", Tatler, 7 October 2020 - ALT2:... that Jane Lunnon, head of Wimbledon High School, said of Love Island that it was "not really doing anything much for feminism"?
Sources: Krishnan Guru-Murthy, "Headteacher Jane Lunnon: Love Island ‘not doing much for feminism’", channel4.com
- ALT1:... that Jane Lunnon won the 2020 Tatler Schools Award for "Best head of a public school", against competition from the heads of Stowe, Gresham's, Giggleswick, and Downe House?
- Reviewed: E. Victor Toeg
Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 12:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC).
Long enough, nominated in time, QPQ done. Appears neutral/stable. Generally adequate inline sources, which appear reliable enough (but see below caveats/queries). Earwig found no copyright problems and spotchecks on freely available sources revealed no close paraphrasing. Hooks are concise, not negative and check out with sources. Alt 1 is fine.
- I find the main hook a little dull, having not previously heard of Alleyn's School (and I'm a Brit, it's probably less known internationally); this needs more context to be usable, I think.
- I like Alt 2 but the quotation given is slightly inaccurate, I think what she actually says is: "is not really doing anything very much for feminism". What you've put in the article is technically correct (C4 misquotes her) but the hook is not. I also think it needs the context of her being a head teacher adding. It would also be useful to add more about this interview clip to the article; she talks extensively about the show's emphasis on appearance, particularly sexualised appearance.
- Not seeing a source for the place & year of birth?
- Does Lunnon publish her middle name, maiden name and marriage date? If not, I think these should probably be removed per BLP policy if they are only sourced to the marriage certificate. Neither she nor her husband are public figures and the marriage certificate is not a published source.
- kesw.org & rolemodels.me ref details could do with expansion. Channel 4 interview needs the date. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:37, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Espresso Addict. I think you are right, I am adding more context to the main hook, and I have corrected and expanded Alt2 as suggested. On the middle name, the answer is yes, Lunnon has included it in several public documents. I wasn’t aware of the BLP policy, which strikes me as very unhelpful to the purpose of an encyclopaedia. I doubt if any other reference works are so particular. In England and Wales Registration of Births, Deaths, and Marriages, is a public process, and while the original documents are primary sources, the indexes to them are publicly available secondary sources and in no sense private or confidential. So I would be inclined to leave those dates (but not to complain if someone comes along and removes them). The source for the place and year of birth is in the next citation. I’ll get around to expanding the article on the lines you have put forward. Moonraker (talk) 05:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Espresso Addict: is this good to go now? jp×g 22:56, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Mapuche polygamy
- ... that Mapuche polygamy was a cornerstone in the Mapuche people's rejection of the Christian faith in Colonial Chile? Source: "un cacique con diez mujeres podía llegar a tener más de cincuenta hijos y una gran cantidad de posibilidades de alianzas políticas. "De ahí que el rechazo a la religión católica siempre se produjera a partir de la prohibición que ésta hacía de la poligamia")
- ALT1:... that in Mapuche polyandry is not the norm but hearsay says it does exists? Source: "Cada vez que preguntaba a las lamngenes sobre la poligamia femenina, las más liberales me decían y si ellos pueden, ¿porque no nosotras?, y me surgió la duda acerca de la existencia de la poliandria, si habría existido tradicionalmente [...] gracias a este caso me pude ir dando cuenta y descubriendo que no era único ni aislado" Millaleo Hernández, Ana Gabriel (2018). Poligamia mapuche / Pu domo ñi Duam (un asunto de mujeres): Politización y despolitización de una práctica en relación a la posición de las mujeres al interior de la sociedad mapuche (PDF) (PhD thesis) (in Spanish). Santiago de Chile: University of Chile, pages 296-298
- ALT2:... that Mapuche polygamy has no legal recognition in Chile? Source: "la poligamia no tiene cobertura legal en Chile"
Created by Sietecolores (talk). Self-nominated at 09:18, 31 January 2021 (UTC).
The topic is interesting enough, but the article has several issues which needs to be resolved. The least of these involve grammar, which can be rectified easily enough. However, the image which accompanies the article says it depicts the "Martrys of Elicura," but makes no mention of this incident within the body of the article, nor does it cite its connection to it. Some of the assertions in the article are poorly cited. For example, the lede states that "Mapuche polygamy has also been reported in the low-income peripheral communes of Santiago." However, the corresponding citation makes no mention of this, although it does spend a paragraph describing a polygamous union set in an unspecified urban area. With respect to the second hook, the source it cites doensn't establish any proof. Rather, it relies on heresay about people several generations ago for whom, unfortunately, there are no records provided of their social habits. In fact, a number of quotes from within that source suggests that polyandry was strongly discouraged historically and very likely did not exist at all. One person goes so far as to say that there exists "no precedent" for polyandry in Mapuche culture, and that the very concept "without question goes against nature." Finally, the main source of the article is, simply put, poorly written. Long paragraphs consisting entirely of meandering, run-on sentences are rife throughout. Worse of all, it poses what appears to be the author's personal opinions as objective facts. I think the article itself and at least one of the hooks needs some work in order to be DYK-ready. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:03, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Work in progress. I have made some changes to address some issues CurryTime7-24 find problematic. I do however find this statement "author's personal opinions as objective facts" unacceptable and I would like to have another author that assume good faith and neutrality address this DYK nomination. I have edited and created numerous Mapuche-related articles onver the years and this is the first time I encounter such negative attitude. Of course authors leave an imprint on the articles they create and I have done plenty of work in selecting the information to include which I think is encyclopedically relevant. As written above, I am addressing most of the issues CurryTime7-24 is concerned about But I will accept he/she being the reviewer here. Sietecolores (talk) 16:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sietecolores, CurryTime7-24, it's been over a month since the above posts; where does this nomination stand? BlueMoonset (talk) 22:34, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know. It doesn't seem like very many of the problems which I addressed last month were fixed. The article seems to contain a lot of original research by the editor who nominated this article. (The writing style of this article and the essay which is the main source here would seem to bear this out.) As I had mentioned earlier, the main source itself is poorly written, unclear, and consists of a lot of personal observations. To be clear, my objection isn't to the subject, the editor's arguments, or even the fact that the editor is citing themselves (they probably are knowledgeable in this subject). Rather, I just wish that there was a better source which clearly back up their arguments. That their mere say so about this or that (for example, regarding polyandry in Mapuche culture) was published in an academic paper without any way to verify, or without providing any criteria by which one could observe how the author reached their conclusions doesn't prove anything. There must be other academic papers and books on the topic of polygamy in Mapuche culture available which can be used as additional sources? Otherwise, it's an interesting subject, but in my opinion the article needs a fair bit of work before it's DYK ready. Maybe another editor can weigh in on this? —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Correction, the main source is not an essay, it is a PhD thesis from the University of Chile. The thesis is well-written and is essentially an on-field enquiry into the topic of Mapuche polygamy. I can´t see what the problem with is. Second, much if not all of what may be called "original research" is simply rewriting as to avoid close paraphrasing and have a coherent text, rather than a collection of statements. Some of CurryTime7-24 were plainly ridiculous as to ask for a source that state the image used in the article comes from the said source. This together with other such as attributing me WP:OR and acting in bad confirm my view CurryTime7-24 is either biased against the topic, me or may not simply be familiar with how Wikipedia works. Sietecolores (talk) 01:16, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I’d like to add with some relevancy to this discussion that Sietecolores please behave more civilly and refrain from making personal attacks. I do not doubt that they may be knowledgeable, that they mean well, and care passionately about this topic. But their combative behavior is against their own interests as it will make other editors disinclined to want to help or cooperate with them. Again, another fluent Spanish speaker is welcome to review the aforementioned thesis. Maybe they’ll disagree that its methodology is obscure and flawed, that the author’s grasp of grammar leaves something to be desired. Returning to the topic, ALT1 is awkwardly written. It’s also not confirmed by the cited source. What it says is that it led the author to suspect that polyandry in Mapuche culture may exist; nowhere in the quote or thesis cited is confirmation of its existence presented, whether historical or contemporary. I’ll provide a nearly exact translation: “Every time I asked the lamngenes about polyandry, the more liberal ones would tell me and if [the men] can, why not us? and the doubt was raised in me concerning the existence of polyandry, whether it had existed traditionally. . . thanks to this case I could go start realizing and discovering that this was neither unique nor isolated.” —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:49, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Correction, the main source is not an essay, it is a PhD thesis from the University of Chile. The thesis is well-written and is essentially an on-field enquiry into the topic of Mapuche polygamy. I can´t see what the problem with is. Second, much if not all of what may be called "original research" is simply rewriting as to avoid close paraphrasing and have a coherent text, rather than a collection of statements. Some of CurryTime7-24 were plainly ridiculous as to ask for a source that state the image used in the article comes from the said source. This together with other such as attributing me WP:OR and acting in bad confirm my view CurryTime7-24 is either biased against the topic, me or may not simply be familiar with how Wikipedia works. Sietecolores (talk) 01:16, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know. It doesn't seem like very many of the problems which I addressed last month were fixed. The article seems to contain a lot of original research by the editor who nominated this article. (The writing style of this article and the essay which is the main source here would seem to bear this out.) As I had mentioned earlier, the main source itself is poorly written, unclear, and consists of a lot of personal observations. To be clear, my objection isn't to the subject, the editor's arguments, or even the fact that the editor is citing themselves (they probably are knowledgeable in this subject). Rather, I just wish that there was a better source which clearly back up their arguments. That their mere say so about this or that (for example, regarding polyandry in Mapuche culture) was published in an academic paper without any way to verify, or without providing any criteria by which one could observe how the author reached their conclusions doesn't prove anything. There must be other academic papers and books on the topic of polygamy in Mapuche culture available which can be used as additional sources? Otherwise, it's an interesting subject, but in my opinion the article needs a fair bit of work before it's DYK ready. Maybe another editor can weigh in on this? —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 5[edit]
Coat of arms of Naples
- ... that the coat of arms of Naples (pictured) has a large and curious history that can interest someone?
Created/expanded by Borteddd (talk). Self-nominated at 19:39, 8 February 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Is the large Italian-language direct quote needed? I think it should be rewritten and cited in the body of the article. Perhaps suggest a more specific and interesting hook that has an in-line citation. I added the image from the article. TJMSmith (talk) 02:33, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
National Socialist Party (Philippines)
- ... that Manuel L. Quezon defeated the National Socialist Party and the communist-backed Republican Party in 1935?
- Comment: QPQ to come later. Republican Party is too short and will look for ways to expand it further.
Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self-nominated at 17:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC).
- Maybe another hook specifically about the party could be proposed here? MLQ doesn't really have that much name recall outside of the Philippines so I don't know if this hook works (except as a double hook where Republican was also nominated for DYK). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Westerners will associate "National Socialist Party" with Nazis, that flourished in the 1930s. U.S. Republicans hate communists. People will then be intrigued on MLQ who beat Nazis and communists only to find out it wasn't Nazis, but still communists. Howard the Duck (talk) 01:28, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe mention Aguinaldo and that he was the first Philippine president? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:10, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Aguinaldo didn't have the incumbency advantage in this election. The hookiness of the hook relies on someone beating Nazis and communist-backed Republicans in the mid 1930s, with someone beating Nazis at this time close to impossible, and communists backing Republicans close to impossible as well, only to know that it wasn't Nazis, but still communists, but not the Republicans they know about. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:48, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Maybe mention Aguinaldo and that he was the first Philippine president? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:10, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Reviewed A Bitter Heritage (Playhouse 90) Howard the Duck (talk) 15:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 6[edit]
Red Steer
- ... that in a violation of Rainbow Code rules, the Red Steer tail warning radar (pictured) was apparently named after a project manager? Source: Poole2
- Reviewed: HMS Surly (1806)
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 14:11, 6 February 2021 (UTC).
- ? The source I can find mentions Jerry Steer but not that the project was named after him or that, if this had happened, then it would have broken rules. Am I missing the correct ref? Victuallers (talk) 23:28, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed, fixed. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:50, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Also, which picture do you prefer? Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:18, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Victuallers: Good to go? Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:20, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Its more than long enough, it was said to be named after Jerry Steer but the rainbow rules are offline so I cannot check. The only image here is free to use. It was only a day old when it was nommed. Cannot see any close paraphrasing and the hook is short enough and kind of interesting. I think its good to go. Thanks Maury (maybe you could add (pictured) to the hook? Victuallers (talk) 17:02, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
@Maury Markowitz and Victuallers: apologies for late notice, but I have some concerns about this hook: (1) the claim looks WP:SYNTH to me; there are two sources, one saying it was named after Gerry Steer and the other giving rules for naming rainbow codes, but there is no source saying specifically that the naming of this was "a violation of Rainbow Code rules". Violation is a strong word for something that isn't directly cited. Plus we don't know for certain that it was a violation; it might be that "steer" was a word on the list of those used in rainbow codes, and it just happened to coincide with the name of the guy. (2) The word "apparently" is listed at MOS:DOUBT as a word to watch, and it's not clear why it's being used here - the sources state that the radar was definitely named after him. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 17:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- The rainbow code rules, as cited, state that they should be entirely random and have nothing to do with the project. This name has something to do with the project, and therefore violates the rules. It doesn't make a difference if it was named for him or not, even a coincidental match is against the rules, that was the entire point of using them. But if that's not enough, someone please feel free to make a new hook. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think this is just making work. As MM notes it doesnt matter if it was named after a dog called Steer AND that name was on the list. The important point was that he was called Steer. I was and remain happy with the hook. Just because "apparently" indicates doubt ..... does nt mean that there is any. Victuallers (talk) 17:30, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I don't agree. Unless there's a source stating that the name was in violation, then this is a textbook violation of WP:SYNTH, which says "do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources". The claim in the hook *may* be correct, but it relies on assumptions which are not explicitly stated. For example, the source for the "rules" doesn't explicitly say that the name should be entirely unconnected with the project, it merely says it should not "reveal too much information". We also don't know whether the word "steer" was on the list of permitted words or not. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 17:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Fair enough, please feel free to offer a new hook. Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:30, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I don't agree. Unless there's a source stating that the name was in violation, then this is a textbook violation of WP:SYNTH, which says "do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources". The claim in the hook *may* be correct, but it relies on assumptions which are not explicitly stated. For example, the source for the "rules" doesn't explicitly say that the name should be entirely unconnected with the project, it merely says it should not "reveal too much information". We also don't know whether the word "steer" was on the list of permitted words or not. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 17:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think this is just making work. As MM notes it doesnt matter if it was named after a dog called Steer AND that name was on the list. The important point was that he was called Steer. I was and remain happy with the hook. Just because "apparently" indicates doubt ..... does nt mean that there is any. Victuallers (talk) 17:30, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- The rainbow code rules, as cited, state that they should be entirely random and have nothing to do with the project. This name has something to do with the project, and therefore violates the rules. It doesn't make a difference if it was named for him or not, even a coincidental match is against the rules, that was the entire point of using them. But if that's not enough, someone please feel free to make a new hook. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
@Maury Markowitz: OK then, how about something along the lines of:
- ALT1: ...that operators of the Mark 1 Red Steer tail warning radar (pictured) joked that the Soviets would not attempt to jam it as such attempts would not make it any harder to read?
- I agree, I quite like it. Let's go with that. I capitalized Mark. Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:53, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Giacomo Sartori
- ... that author Giacomo Sartori's unusual day job as a soil scientist has been named as an influence on his work? Source: Restless Books: Giacomo Sartori
- Reviewed: A Bread Factory
Created by Vaticidalprophet (talk). Self-nominated at 16:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria - length and newness. Will require a relook at sourcing -- while sentences are sourced, many of them are sourced to the author's profile on the book publisher's webpage, his own Linkedin page. I am asking another editor / reviewer's assistance to help have a relook. No major copyvios to be seen. The phrase
has since published seven novels and four collections of short stories
can be considered for revision since it is used as-is from Restlessbooks. Hook is cited and interesting. However, hook is again sourced the author's page on the publisher webpage. Will require another Editor's eyes on this one. Request to the nominator -- In addition, can you think about a rewrite of the lede. Please see if you can avoid narrative style and go for a declarative style. E.g. He is an author of x books including A, B, and C, rather than "Sartori, who began writing in his thirties, has since published ...". I would also suggest reconsidering phrases such as 'positive reviews' in the lede. QPQ not required since the editor has only DYK published so far. However, if this is not accurate, please let me know. Overall, I think this is a good nomination, but, might require a relook. I am requesting for another reviewer's support on this one. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 22:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking a look, @Ktin! I'm cutting down on the relevant predominance of the author bio a bit. The LinkedIn cite is to support some uncontroversial biographical information, which I've always taken as an acceptable use of that kind of source (and is explicitly called out as "can be a valid reason to use discouraged sources" on Cite Unseen); post-revision, the author bio is mostly the same. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 06:16, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Vaticidalprophet: Thanks. Let me know when the edits are done, and I can pick it up. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 02:14, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Ktin: Been a while, but how do you feel about how the article is currently set up? Vaticidalprophet (talk) 22:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Vaticidalprophet: Looks good. Added one [citation needed] tag. Good to go once that is fixed. Ktin (talk) 03:04, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Ktin: Cited. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 22:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Vaticidalprophet: Looks good. Added one [citation needed] tag. Good to go once that is fixed. Ktin (talk) 03:04, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Ktin: Been a while, but how do you feel about how the article is currently set up? Vaticidalprophet (talk) 22:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Vaticidalprophet: Thanks. Let me know when the edits are done, and I can pick it up. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 02:14, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Came by to promote, but I'm uncomfortable with the hook assertion being sourced to his publisher. I think we need a new hook. —valereee (talk) 16:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
If a new hook is needed, then adding icon indicating that there's an issue holding up promotion. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Honestly, I'm pretty tired of this process. I have half a mind to entirely withdraw this hook and the I Am God hook. I don't know that I want to commit to it, but I don't exactly feel motivated to come up with a new one. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 03:41, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- The hook seems fine to me. jp×g 18:35, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Hu Zhiying

- ... that avant-garde artist Hu Zhiying's (pictured) master's degree was denied after his thesis was labeled as "not in line with Marxist principles"? Source: CNKIJiangsu Art Monthly
- ALT1:... that avant-garde artist Hu Zhiying (pictured), who works within the areas of painting, installation, video art and conceptual art, has artworks exhibited in China, Europe and the United States? Source: China Artists AssociationASIA ART ARCHIVEBronx Council on the ArtsARTRONAbsolute Magazine
Created/expanded by Jujiang (talk). Self-nominated at 13:12, 6 February 2021 (UTC).
I'm not sure this article and nomination are ready for primetime yet. There are still some rough edges in the prose that could be smoothed over into more fluid English, and while the copyvio detector doesn't pick up anything that looks like obvious plagiarism, it does suggest overquotation. I have my doubts about the picture being a free image, and even if it were we could certainly do better than "see, this guy is on the right of this group of three that takes up about one-sixth of the image" ... in fact I was preparing a crop when I decided to look at the image's source.
As for the hooks ... let's go with the original one; the one I had to remove a duplicate of, as what is now ALT1 is rather unremarkable as many artists have work exhibited worldwide. And even having said that, we will need to clean up the original hook as it is wordy and still awkwardly worded, as a result of being what seems to be a direct translation of the Chinese. Daniel Case (talk) 19:30, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Fixed that. Daniel Case (talk) 19:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Thank you a lot. I made a little modification to the hook. --Jujiang (talk) 21:16, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- OK, but the article itself still needs some work, per what I wrote. Daniel Case (talk) 03:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Can you make a small improvement for this article if you find anything inaccurate? My mother tongue is not English. Thank you very much. --Jujiang (talk) 11:01, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- OK, but the article itself still needs some work, per what I wrote. Daniel Case (talk) 03:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Thank you a lot. I made a little modification to the hook. --Jujiang (talk) 21:16, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Fixed that. Daniel Case (talk) 19:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- This article is moved to Hu Zhiying on December 11, 2020, 2 months before dyk nomination.
- The DYKcheck of Hu Zhiying mentioned "Article has not been created or expanded 5x or promoted to Good Article within the past 10 days (86 days). DYKcheck does not account for previous versions with splits or copyright violations."--Wolfch (talk) 01:06, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Jujiang, Daniel Case, the article was at 1523 prose characters prior to Jujiang's expansion on February 4; it is currently 3767 prose characters, about a 2.5x expansion. It will need to more than double in size to 7615 prose characters if it is to reach the required 5x expansion–another 3848 prose characters. Jujiang, do you think you'll be able to add that much material? BlueMoonset (talk) 02:36, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 7[edit]
Viola Brand
... that artistic cyclist Viola Brand never won the World Championship but still was invited to the Ellen show?Source: [9] & [10]ALT1:... that Viola Brand has won 17 medals in artistic cycling and was invited to the Ellen show?Source: [11]
- Comment: Since I withdrew my previous nomination, this is now my final nomination without the need for a QPQ.
Moved to mainspace by Possibly (talk), RamónMC (talk), and LordPeterII (talk). Nominated by LordPeterII (talk) at 10:17, 12 February 2021 (UTC).
delighted by a nomination which includes "artistic cycling". The article is okay, but the list of results, i.e. the whole "Personal best" section, needs referencing. It could use being updated too, it says "as of December 2018" she was studying, well it's Feb 2021. It's not essential but would improve things. Regarding the choice of hook, an appearance on the The Ellen DeGeneres Show is mildly interesting, but it'd be more interesting (I think) if we reinforced that Viola is German and only 26, and I think you need to use the proper title of the show rather than "the Ellen show". My preference is for ALT1 right now because I imagine plenty of sportspeople have been on Ellen without being world champions. QPQ not required, noted. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:34, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Alright, first a ping to Possibly and RamónMC, because I am not sure if being mentioned in a nomination does ping you automatically, and you might possibly have missed that this is at DYK.
- @The Rambling Man: Okay, I see RamónMC has already added a ref for the table, but I am not 100% happy with it since it is to a javasript-heavy (or whatever) site, where you have to click several times within the same URL to access the actual results you are looking for. I'll try to look for a way to directly link to her results (so it can e.g. be archived by the IAbot). As for updating, I'll take a look - it previously stated that she started studying in 2015, so it's already closer to now. I'm not sure if we have reliable sources following her studies since she has now quit her career, but I'll take a look. I'll also revisit the hook as per your suggestions. Will report back once that is done! --LordPeterII (talk) 09:31, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- I had forgotten about this article; it was a two-sentence stub when I started it. Congrats and thanks RamónMC, who has improved it so much. I think Alt2 is much better. Nothing more to add.Possibly (talk) 09:37, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- LordPeterII no problem, ping me when you're ready for me to re-visit. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:19, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: Hey, so I'm sorry this took so long. I've been sucked into real life and... whatever, I'm back. The article is in a pretty good state now imo, and I've managed to find a way to link directly to the competition results (though alas IAbot still seems to have problems with archiving these). ALT0 is a bad choice indeed, so I'd prefer not to use it after all. I've also struck ALT1 because while the "17 medals" thing was quoted in an old version of the article, it does no longer fit with our new wikitable - and I think the sources counted some subset, or included medals from her youth. Anyway, I hereby propose an adjusted hook, as well as a new hook:
- ALT1a:... that German artistic cyclist and three-time Vice World Champion Viola Brand (pictured) was invited to The Ellen DeGeneres Show, which she used to watch to improve her English? Sources: [12] & [13]
- ALT2:... that German artistic cyclist and three-time Vice World Champion Viola Brand (pictured) retired from professional sports at the age of 25 to focus on her social media? Sources: [14] & [15]
- And since we apparently have pictures (thanks for adding these RamónMC), I would like to try to include them as well - but I do not know how. The Rambling Man, could you tell me how to add them to the nomination? I'm thinking of this pic here File:Viola Brand artistic cycling (cropped).jpg since it's the most colourful, but maybe File:Viola Brand Worldchampionship.jpg would also be a good option since it shows her in competition. I'd leave the choice to you. --LordPeterII (talk) 22:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi there. I have only added images while creating a nomination. Best bet is to take a look at the coding for one of the existing nominations with an image and replicate that.
With regard to this hook, a few things remain for me. We don't really use "Vice World Champion", more like runner-up at the World Championship. I certainly prefer ALT1a, but artistic cycling is a redirect and The Ellen DeGeneres Show needs to be in italics. The article is in good condition, I'll have to assume good faith on the sources as my German is weak. No QPQ required. Let's just tweak the hook(s) to take into account my comments (if you agree) and we're almost there. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: Hey, so I'm sorry this took so long. I've been sucked into real life and... whatever, I'm back. The article is in a pretty good state now imo, and I've managed to find a way to link directly to the competition results (though alas IAbot still seems to have problems with archiving these). ALT0 is a bad choice indeed, so I'd prefer not to use it after all. I've also struck ALT1 because while the "17 medals" thing was quoted in an old version of the article, it does no longer fit with our new wikitable - and I think the sources counted some subset, or included medals from her youth. Anyway, I hereby propose an adjusted hook, as well as a new hook:
Sursock Purchases
- ... that reaction to the sale of al-Fule, one of the Sursock Purchases, was the most significant Anti-Zionist event in Palestine prior to World War I? Source: Emanuel Beska, 2014, Political Opposition to Zionism in Palestine and Greater Syria: 1910–1911 as a Turning Point: "As the debate regarding the crown lands was still under way another, more important event started to develop. The sale of lands of the village of al-Fula to the Jewish National Fund can be considered in this context the most significant event that took place in the period before the outbreak of the First World War. The lands of al-Fula belonged to Ilyas Sursuq, the wealthy Greek Orthodox banker, merchant, and landowner from Beirut, who in 1910 reached a deal on their sale with the Zionists... The peasant inhabitants refused to leave their village and were supported in their resistance by the qa’immaqam (district governor) of Nazareth, Shukri al-‘Asali (1878–1916), who was resolutely opposed to this transaction and became a major protagonist in the affair."
- Reviewed: To come
Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 01:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC).
- The cited source talks about the importance of the sale, not the reaction to it. Regardless, a claim like "most significant" needs to be attributed unless you can show that it's more than the opinion of one author. (t · c) buidhe 03:15, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Many thanks for your comment. The context of Beška's wider article is clear that this refers to the importance of the reaction. See for example the introduction: "The relatively short period at the turn of the year 1910–1911 was of profound importance for the development of political opposition to Zionism in Palestine and its neighboring Arab regions. During a period of about a year, several important events and incidents occurred; a number of Arab journalists, notables, and officers became involved in anti-Zionist activities and campaigns; and the quantity of articles critical of Zionism published in the Arabic press markedly increased. Based on these and other reasons, we are convinced that the months at the end of 1910 and the first half of 1911 represent the turning point in the attitudes of the educated Arab public toward Jewish land purchases in Palestine, Jewish immigration, and the Zionist movement." Onceinawhile (talk) 08:48, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: a second source as requested: Rashid Khalidi (1997). Palestinian Identity: The Construction of Modern National Consciousness. Columbia University Press. ISBN 978-0-231-10515-6.: "These themes are reiterated during one of the earliest cases of organized opposition to Zionist land purchase in Palestine: the al-Fula (or ‘Afula) incident of 1910-1911. Many newspaper articles written in opposition to this sale stressed the special place of Palestine, for it was one of the biggest purchases up to that point, and one of the earliest to lead to the eviction of large numbers of Palestinian peasants… The twentieth-century incidents in the Tiberias region and at al-Fula, especially the latter, are significant because of the major effect they were to have in the context of Ottoman and Arab nationalist politics and in the coalescence of Palestinian identity… Important as had been the al-Shajara incidents in 1901-4 and their bloody sequel in 1909, which repeated the pattern of the earlier clashes in Petah Tiqva and elsewhere while taking the conflict to a higher level, a far greater impact was created by events in al-Fula… Although the end result for many of the fellahin involved was the same—dispossession and homelessness—the al-Fula purchase marked the beginning of an overt and articulate anti-Zionist campaign… In large part as a result of al-‘Asali’s actions, the al-Fula incident became a cause celebre in bilad al-Sham, with dozens of articles appearing in news papers in Damascus, Beirut, Haifa, and elsewhere over a period of over a year... The sharp, continuing controversy sparked off by the al-Fula sale, an otherwise minor incident, underlines the importance of the dispossession and consequent resistance of the Palestinian peasantry in making the issue of Zionism a central one in Arab political discourse before 1914… The coalescence of all these factors made the al-Fula clashes between Arab fellahin and Jewish settlers more significant than the many others that preceded it and that involved a few of the same elements."
- Does this address your questions? Onceinawhile (talk) 22:42, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Not really, the second source appears to say that it is the most significant incident of opposition to Jewish land purchases during that era but the claim in the hook does not follow from that. Anyway, I think a better hook would focus on the purchases themselves as opposed to the reaction to them. It looks like Al-Fula incident is a notable topic that could have its own article. (t · c) buidhe 23:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: I think these sources very clearly support the hook, so perhaps let’s get a third opinion. In the meantime, given you are well read on Israeli-Palestinian history, please could you confirm whether you consider the proposed hook likely to be accurate, or if you are unsure, whether you are aware of any other pre-WWI outbreak of Anti-Zionism in Palestine that could be considered equally or more significant? Onceinawhile (talk) 22:43, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Not really, the second source appears to say that it is the most significant incident of opposition to Jewish land purchases during that era but the claim in the hook does not follow from that. Anyway, I think a better hook would focus on the purchases themselves as opposed to the reaction to them. It looks like Al-Fula incident is a notable topic that could have its own article. (t · c) buidhe 23:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Many thanks for your comment. The context of Beška's wider article is clear that this refers to the importance of the reaction. See for example the introduction: "The relatively short period at the turn of the year 1910–1911 was of profound importance for the development of political opposition to Zionism in Palestine and its neighboring Arab regions. During a period of about a year, several important events and incidents occurred; a number of Arab journalists, notables, and officers became involved in anti-Zionist activities and campaigns; and the quantity of articles critical of Zionism published in the Arabic press markedly increased. Based on these and other reasons, we are convinced that the months at the end of 1910 and the first half of 1911 represent the turning point in the attitudes of the educated Arab public toward Jewish land purchases in Palestine, Jewish immigration, and the Zionist movement." Onceinawhile (talk) 08:48, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Cookhouse

- ... that cookhouses (example pictured) were a standard feature of remote work sites, as the working men (e.g. cowboys, loggers, miners, etc.) needed large amounts of food for the strenuous work they performed? [16] [17]
- ALT1:... that a cookhouse (example pictured) at a logging camp served up to five meals a day for the workers who could work upwards of twelve hours, and consume between 6,000 and 9,000 calories, a day? [18]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Corn Belt Weekend
- Comment: This is a possible double hook with logging camp.
Created by Evrik (talk). Self-nominated at 05:37, 7 February 2021 (UTC).
- Reviewing, Will complete soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Evrik:...New enough, long enough. Before completing review, suggest a clearer image and addressing high copyvio. I prefer the single hook but consider simplifying it and rewriting without using "e.g.", brackets and "etc". QPQ provided. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:39, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Whispyhistory: I swapped images, though I'm not tied to any image. As for the copyvio, That mirror site has copied the text from the Wikipedia article. --evrik (talk) 05:11, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
...@Evrik: Thanks for clarifying the copyvio. Image is free and clear...it is a reconstructed cookhouse. The hook contains "cowboys" and "miners". I could not see this in the cited reference. Please clarify. A shorter, simplified hook might be easier to read. An interesting topic. FYI...if interested...I had a little read around and also found...the evolution of the cookhouse to the kitchen [19], cockroaches and cookhouses, [20], illnesses in military cook houses [21], [22]. In 1885, D. G. Crawford described an outbreak in a military containment where they had to use the cookhouse as a hospital [23]. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- I added a reference about cowboys. The miners cite is less clear, so we can drop that word ... if you have any suggested hooks, they would be appreciated. I will add the references to the talk page and will look at it later. Thanks! --evrik (talk) 02:30, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- The hooks are still too long....calling @Philafrenzy: to suggest a shorter hook? Whispyhistory (talk) 19:27, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1... that their cookhouse (example pictured) was as important to loggers as their bunkhouse or tool shed?
- ALT1a... that for loggers, the cookhouse (example pictured) was as important as the bunkhouse or tool shed?
- ALT2... that farms often sprang up just to supply the cookhouse (example pictured) of logging camps, and closed when the camp did? Philafrenzy (talk) 20:28, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. Please check ok with you @Evrik:. ALT1 looks good. Image ok too. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:39, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- The article cookhouse is barely adequate and is composed of a number of sources strung together just because they use the word cookhouse rather than canteen, kitchen, mess, or restaurant. If the sources had used another descriptor, would they even be in the article? It might be stronger if it more closely defined its subject and went into more depth about it. It has potential but right now it could easily be merged into another article and nobody would miss it. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:49, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you @Philafrenzy:...I'm sure @Evrik: will be be able to address these points. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:26, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- I think it needs a narrower focus and greater depth. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:25, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 8[edit]
Allen Mawer
- ... that Allen Mawer (pictured) was the driving force behind the establishment of the English Place-Name Society, which conducted the first scholarly survey of the toponymy of England? Source: Stenton, F. M. (2002). "Sir Allen Mawer". In Lapidge, Michael (ed.). Interpreters of Early Medieval Britain. British Academy. pp. 238–241. ISBN 9780197262771.; Ekwall, E. (1942). "Notes and News: Sir Allen Mawer: In Memoriam". English Studies. 24: 169–171. doi:10.1080/00138384208596736.
There had long been a feeling in England that it was time for English scholarship to undertake a systematic survey of English place-names on lines similar to those followed in Scandinavia. It was now obvious that Mawer was the scholar to take the lead. He began paving the way… Thanks chiefly to Allen Mawer's untiring efforts the English Place-name Society was founded in January 1923 in order to finance the great survey planned. The Society met with a remarkable response from the public… The chief burden of the immense preparatory work lay on Allen Mawer's shoulders, and so no doubt did the task of drawing up the plan for the survey… It is really a feat of no small magnitude to have kept this great undertaking going without a hitch for so many years, and the chief credit is due to Allen Mawer. His organizing skill, his indefatigable energy, his infectious enthusiasm and unselfish devotion, his capacity for enlisting the interest and co-operation of other scholars and for frictionless collaboration, have been invaluable assets for the undertaking, as has been his scholarship, his etymological acumen, his sound method, and his experience as a place-name student. It will indeed not be easy to replace Allen Mawer.
Improved to Good Article status by Krakkos (talk). Self-nominated at 10:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC).
Reviewing... Flibirigit (talk) 16:48, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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Overall: The article achieved GA status on February 8 and was nominated the same day. Length is adequate. No plagiarism issues were detected, and the article meets DYK sourcing requirements. The photo of Mawer is freely licensed to the Commons, clear at a low resolution and would enhance the hook. The QPQ requirement has been completed. The hook is interesting, but I find it confusing that the term toponymy of England is not used in this biography and I do not feel the hook can be verified without more similar language used. I am concerned there may be weasel terms used in the biography. In the "Early career" section it says "he also published two notable papers", but it is not apparent to me why these papers are "notable". The statement "It established him as one of the major experts in this field of study" is not attributed to anyone, so the context is not apparent. In the section "Founding the English Place-Name Society", it says "It quickly became apparent that Mawer was the right man for the job". This statement should be attributed to someone who felt it was apparent. The statement, "Following a memorable speech" is not clear why the speech was notable nor who it is atributed to. In the statement "most notably Eilert Ekwall, Frank Stenton, Percy Hide Reaney, Albert Hugh Smith and John Eric Bruce Gover", it is not clear to me why these scholars are "most notable". The statement, "his highly important article "The Redemption of the Five Boroughs" seems very grandiose and does not attibute who said this nor why the article was important. In the "Provost at University College London" section, the statement "Although a man of great physical strength and energy" seems grandiose and would be better just to say he had a heart condition. Lastly, it is not apparent to me why any of the people listed in the "See also" section are related to this biography. Overall, the article is in decent shape but the tone could be improved. Flibirigit (talk) 17:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 10[edit]
Donough MacCarty, 1st Earl of Clancarty
- ... that one of the members (pictured) of the Supreme Council of the Irish Catholic Confederacy had two Protestant grandfathers? (1) MacCarthy 1913 p. 66: "Cormac MacDermott, 16th Lord, born in 1552, attended Parliament in 1578 as "Baron of Blarney", and conformed to the Protestant church." (2) McGurk (2004) p. 361, right column: "In the 1613 parliament he [Thomond] strongly supported the protestant party ..."
- ALT1:... that Donough MacCarty, 1st Earl of Clancarty (pictured) who fought for the Irish Catholic Confederacy had two Protestant grandfathers? (1) MacCarthy 1913 p. 66: "Cormac MacDermott, 16th Lord, born in 1552, attended Parliament in 1578 as "Baron of Blarney", and conformed to the Protestant church." (2) McGurk (2004) p. 361, right column: "In the 1613 parliament he [Thomond] strongly supported the protestant party ..."
- Comment: The hook fact is not central to the biography of the subject
Improved to Good Article status by Jdorney (talk) and MadMax (talk). Nominated by Johannes Schade (talk) at 17:31, 10 February 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: ALT1 prefered Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:10, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
There are a few [citation needed] tags due to lacking inline citation requirements for DYK. These need to be resolved prior to promotion. (t · c) buidhe 14:27, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Dera Buidhe. I have done some work on the {{cn}} tags. I would like you to have a look and remove them if you agree. With Thanks, Johannes Schade (talk) 18:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Treatment of South Asian labourers in the Gulf Cooperation Council region
- ... that concerning the treatment of South Asian labourers in the Gulf Cooperation Council region, hundreds died in Qatar from working in hot temperatures? [1]
- ALT1:... that many of these migrants were brought into the GCC under the kafala system, a sponsor based system used in the GCC, which is seen by many human rights groups as highly exploitative? [1]
5x expanded by Zakaria1978 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:51, 10 February 2021 (UTC).
- Comment Zakaria1978, thanks for your work on this article! However, expansion is measured in readable prose and the article's readable prose has not been 5x expanded since creation. Since the size prior to recent additions was 1439 characters, the article needs to be at least 7195 characters of readable prose to be eligible. It currently stands at 5036 so expansion is definitely doable. (t · c) buidhe 03:59, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b "How will Qatar's labor reforms impact South Asian workers?". DW.COM. October 1, 2020.
Articles created/expanded on February 13[edit]
Articles created/expanded on February 15[edit]
Green Leader
- ... that the Rhodesian Air Force's (flag pictured) Green Leader told Zambia that they were taking control of Zambian airspace on an air raid and threatened to shoot down any Zambian Air Force planes that interfered? Source: The Guardian
- Reviewed: SLAPP Suits (Last Week Tonight)
Converted from a redirect by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 15:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC).
This is only a comment and not a review (I will leave the full review to another editor), but the current hook is too long as it is 214 characters long including "(flag pictured)" and 198 characters without (I am citing WP:DYKHOOK which states that hooks slightly shorter than 200 characters may still be rejected). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:12, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Also pursuant to WP:DYKHOOK, it also says that character count is "...not including the ... or any (pictured)". I have shortened it a little by changing "bombing" to "air". The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:50, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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Overall: New enough, long enough, sourced enough, neutral enough, does not trigger anything on Earwig's checker, hook is cited and interesting, pic is free, QPQ was done. The above hook issues may give pause, would like to see an alternate hook, but this is not a total dealbreaker. jp×g 19:15, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 17[edit]
How Did I Find Myself Here?
- ... that 1980s alternative rock band The Dream Syndicate released a new studio album, How Did I Find Myself Here?, in 2017, 29 years after their last album? Source: [25]
- Reviewed: I'm on it.
Created by Drmies (talk) and Myuserid (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 16:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC).
Interesting album, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The hook is fine, but has too many numbers for my taste. I don't need the "1980s" at the beginning, and by 29 years (or three decades) or whatever, that is even redundant altogether. I'd begin with the attractive title, say what it is, then how much later than the first. Unless you want to focus on the elapsed time, but then bring that to the front. - In the article, I read many historic things but somehow don't hear the music until Reception comes in. May be just me. - Other music, pleasant: some days ago FS said he often uses a red link, I created that, made a hook, and read a better hook in yesterday's paper! This project can be so great! The interview was run by a person with whom I sang in choir, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:52, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Farahnaz Forotan
- ... that after the start of Afghan peace talks in 2019, journalist Farahnaz Forotan travelled the country to collect testimonies from women and prevent the roll back of their freedoms? "Forotan, a journalist, is travelling the country for her social media campaign, asking women what rights they won’t stand to see negotiated. Video clips are uploaded online and shared using the #MyRedLine hashtag. The testimonies are being used to lobby Afghan leaders, foreign diplomats and civil society groups.", The Guardian
- Comment: Proofreading to both the hook of the article are welcome. I wanted to include the fact that apparently she's the youngest recipient of the "Journalist in the country" as a hook, but I have failed to find this in the cited sources.
Created by NoonIcarus (talk). Self-nominated at 13:50, 17 February 2021 (UTC).
- I have tried to remove the flags but have been unable to find either of the awards mentioned in English language sources. The sources currently given seem to be general news links that no longer support the statements given, but perhaps someone can find better ones. Terrific subject for an article! Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:35, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- I would suggest that the paragraph about awards be moved to the talk page, with a request for people to find sources that would support its return to the article, so that the DYK process can proceed, without that information. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:07, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Koo App
- ... that the Koo App shot to prominence after Twitter got into a weeks-long standoff with the government of India? Source:Japan Times article
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
Created by Aman.kumar.goel (talk). Self-nominated at 11:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: I've added a link and made a minor amendment to the hook. Bahnfrend (talk) 12:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Bahnfrend: I have addressed above issues with my recent edit. I don't think QPQ is needed because I have less than 5 nominations. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 11:23, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 18[edit]
New York COVID-19 nursing home scandal
- ... that the New York COVID-19 nursing home scandal reportedly began by aides to Governor Andrew Cuomo trying to avoid "a giant political football"? (Source: The Economist)
- ALT1:... that a report by Attorney General of New York Letitia James found that Governor Andrew Cuomo had undercounted nursing home COVID-19 deaths by up to 50 percent, leading to a scandal? (Source: The Economist)
- ALT2:... that Governor of New York Andrew Cuomo, who was initially praised for his handing of the COVID-19 pandemic, is now implicated in a scandal related to it? (Source: BBC)
- ALT3:... that Ron Kim alleges Governor Andrew Cuomo threatened to "destroy" him over the New York COVID-19 nursing home scandal? (Source: CNN)
Created by Yousef Raz (talk) and CaliIndie (talk). Nominated by AllegedlyHuman (talk) at 15:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Well-written article on a current political scandal. I have taken the liberty of doing some minor copyediting. I don't think a QPQ is necessary since neither author has any DYK credits, but I'm not sure if it needs one from the nom (would like a second opinion). jp×g 22:41, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Spare Time (film)
- ... that Humphrey Jennings' film Spare Time (1939) showed an American audience how the British working classes spent their free time?
- ALT1:... that ...?
- Reviewed: To be done
- Comment: Just acquired new sources and still working on it
Created by Edwardx (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 11:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
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Overall: Article requires further expansion and QPQ, but a solid start on a British classic. No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
I have inserted a purple "maybe" icon since the article does not appear to require considerable work before becoming eligible. Completely rejecting the nomination does not seem correct at this time. Flibirigit (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think that was probably what No Swan So Fine intended. I have the book needed to expand it (just received) and will work on it shortly. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, sorry for any confusion. I've amended it to a 'maybe'. It'll certainly be fine after some minor work. No Swan So Fine (talk) 13:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think that was probably what No Swan So Fine intended. I have the book needed to expand it (just received) and will work on it shortly. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Caroling Dusk, An Anthology of Verse by American Negroes, The Book of American Negro Poetry, Negro Poets and Their Poems
- ... that the poetry anthologies The Book of American Negro Poetry, Negro Poets and Their Poems, An Anthology of Verse by American Negroes, and Caroling Dusk included poems by African-American poets ranging from Langston Hughes to a nine-year-old girl? (source: In addition to Johnson's and Cullen's anthologies, two other major poetry collections ... appeared during the 1920s to showcase black writers)
- ALT1 ... that The Book of American Negro Poetry, Negro Poets and Their Poems, An Anthology of Verse by American Negroes, and Caroling Dusk, major poetry anthologies from the Harlem Renaissance, included poems by African-American poets ranging from Langston Hughes to a nine-year-old girl?
- ALT2 ... that The Book of American Negro Poetry, Negro Poets and Their Poems, An Anthology of Verse by American Negroes, and Caroling Dusk were major anthologies of African-American poems published in the 1920s?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Taylor Swift masters controversy, Template:Did you know nominations/James Kendall Hosmer, Template:Did you know nominations/Revenge dress (2)
Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC).
- I will take this up momentarily. Ktin (talk) 05:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Please can I request for a restructuring of this article? I feel it does not flow well starting with a table with a count of submissions. The table can come lower in the article if needed. Ktin (talk) 05:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Doing... working a background section. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:13, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ktin, I've moved details around and added a section providing context of the era. Is this better? Eddie891 Talk Work 13:39, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Ktin, I'd like to belatedly expand this to four noms. Please don't feel obligated to continue the review, as I know it isn't what you signed up for. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 19[edit]
Clare Fowler
- ... that physician Clare Fowler and surgeon Prokar Dasgupta were the first in the UK to use Botox injections, using a flexible telescope, to treat people with overactive bladders?
- ALT1:... that in the UK, Clare Fowler and Prokar Dasgupta established the treatment of overactive bladders with Botox injections, using a flexible telescope?
- Reviewed: To be done
- Comment: Slightly late - hope that's OK as it is a strong article
Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 09:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC).
This article is acceptably new enough and is long enough. The hook facts are cited inline apart for the flexible telescope, which I can't find mentioned on page 190 of the source. A telescope is an instrument for seeing distant objects so it is more likely to be an endoscope in my opinion. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ needs to be done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- The source cited says "cystoscope", which makes more sense; I've edited the article to reflect this. jp×g 08:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks @JPxG:. @Cwmhiraeth:...Thanks for reviewing. Are you okay if I go through the article and re-read/check over this week and then I can ping you when I am done. Will add QPQ too. Whispyhistory (talk) 04:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Tifton Residential Historic District
- ... that the Tifton Residential Historic District in Tifton, Georgia includes a Coca-Cola bottling plant built in the Beaux-Arts style? Gretchen Brock; Robert A. Ciucevich (December 20, 2007). National Register of Historic Places Registration: Tifton Residential Historic District. National Archives. Retrieved February 19, 2021. (Text-only version published by National Park Service also available at https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/08000355_text.)
- Reviewed: Siuro railway station
- Comment: Draft created on February 19, moved to mainspace on February 24
Created by Doncram (talk). Nominated by GeneralPoxter (talk) at 02:04, 25 February 2021 (UTC).
- Article:
- Created as a draft on February 19, then moved to the main space.
- The readable prose consists of 928 characters. The bulleted points do not count as such. (Wikipedia:Article size#Readable prose)
- Created as a draft on February 19, then moved to the main space.
- Hook:
- Interesting, the citation checks to page 11 of the provided document.
- Interesting, the citation checks to page 11 of the provided document.
- Other: QPQ checks.
- The readable prose size of the article is an issue here. I would gladly extend a week to improve it in order to pass this DYK.
--GDuwenHoller! 22:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, my bad. I didn't read up on what could be considered part of the byte count. I'll see if I can expand in the near future (thanks for the extension). GeneralPoxter (talk) 22:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- The readable prose size of the article is an issue here. I would gladly extend a week to improve it in order to pass this DYK.
Abdallah Oumbadougou
- ... that Abdallah Oumbadougou, the "godfather of all the present-day Tuareg musicians in Niger", distributed illegal cassette tapes with ishumar music while in exile from 1984 to 1995? Source: for the quote, for the exile and the cassettes.
Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 21 February 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: hi, Drmies, nice work. AGF on non-english sources. Looks like three of the albums under 'discography' are wanting for citations. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Space industry of India
- ... that by 2019, India had launched more than 300 satellites for 33 countries? Source: Times of India
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
Created by Raymond3023 and expanded by Aman.kumar.goel. Nominated by Aman.kumar.goel (talk) at 05:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC).
- This is not a full review, just a comment, but I'm not sure this is ready to go. While an "expand" tag is fine, the "rewrite" tag is considered enough of a danger sign to generally stop an article from appearing on the front page at all. I realize you stuck it there yourself, but please resolve the issue. Additionally, I think the article has some mixed focus. The article should, in my opinion, specifically be on the industry side - corporations, factories, construction, that kind of thing, yet there's some parts that just seem to recap what ISRO has done. I realize that ISRO contracts are probably very closely tied to this, but I'd be careful about drawing a line to avoid repetition or unclear focus. Finally, I think the hook can use some work - what does launching a satellite "for" a country even mean? Were these contracts with national governments other than India? Or just any business involving entities from outside India? Did these launches use homegrown tech, or were these pre-assembled gear from elsewhere that just happened to be launched in India because it's at the right latitude? Source isn't really clear, it seems like puffery. SnowFire (talk) 05:04, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Aman.kumar.goel: Did you see the above? Per the instructions, please add the nomination page to the watchlist to see comments. If you disagree with my comments that's fine but some sort of response is expected to avoid a reject on the hook. SnowFire (talk) 09:05, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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the "rewrite" tag is considered enough of a danger sign to generally stop an article from appearing on the front page at all.
It was me actually. I yet have planned to expand article and rewrite that section in a much better. But not have been getting sufficient time for a while. Better I do it now. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 11:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)- SnowFire You may further proceed your reveiw now. Regards Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 12:12, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 20[edit]
Robert T. Kerlin
- ... that the educator Robert T. Kerlin was fired from work at three universities for his activism? Source: [26]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Plants vs. Zombies
- Comment: alt might need some rephrasing
Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC).
- ALT1 ... that Robert T. Kerlin was fired from Virginia Military Institute because he questioned the death sentences of Negro farmers who had rioted against "Congo barbarity" at the hands of their overseers?
- I'm fine with ALT1, Maile66, thanks for suggesting it. I agree the specific is more hook-y, just wasn't sure the best way to phrase it. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: For ALT1, "overseers" seems overstrong perhaps as sources say white landlords. Also "Congo barbarity" is the term Kerlin used to described the unjust treatment of the farmers, not what the farmers were rioting against. gobonobo + c 05:11, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that Robert T. Kerlin was fired from the Virginia Military Institute for questioning the death sentences of Negro farmers?
Nationality, religion, and language data for the provinces of Thailand
- ... that both Narathiwat and Pattani provinces in Thailand were over 80.0% Muslim in 2000? http://web.nso.go.th/pop2000/finalrep/narathifn.pdf http://web.nso.go.th/pop2000/finalrep/pattanifn.pdf
Created by Futurist110 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:52, 20 February 2021 (UTC).
- By the way, an alternative hook for this –which I myself actually like better than my original hook here–could be this:
- ... that Surin Province in Thailand was over 60% Khmer in 1990 and slightly less than half Khmer in 2000? http://web.nso.go.th/pop2000/finalrep/surinfn.pdf Futurist110 (talk) 01:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- I have now reviewed this DYK? nomination here: Template:Did you know nominations/Jasmin Taylor. Futurist110 (talk) 01:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 21[edit]
United Airlines Flight 328
- ... that following an engine failure, United Airlines Flight 328 (airplane pictured) rained debris over Broomfield, Colorado? (Source: The Washington Post)
- ALT1:... that debris falling from United Airlines Flight 328 (airplane pictured) was recorded by cellphone cameras? (Source: BBC)
Created by Kencf0618 (talk), AnAUsedSubcompact (talk), and WikiPediaAid (talk). Nominated by AllegedlyHuman (talk) at 05:00, 21 February 2021 (UTC).
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- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: QPQ not needed for a new nominator. As long as the sources are cleaned up, I think this could be good to go, maybe with some modifications to the hook. SounderBruce 05:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- I've removed the social media sources from the article; it seemed to be no issue, as all sentences they were attributed to had independent reliable sources as well. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 05:40, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- @AllegedlyHuman: There are still quite a few problematic sources: BroomfieldPD Twitter, Flightradar24, Aviation-Safety Wiki, AirFleets.net, one YouTube video, and Aerossurance, among others. These need to be replaced. SounderBruce 04:03, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Well, I was telling the truth when I said I removed those sources before–but it seems several less competent editors have added them in different places in the time since. I've taken another stab at it, though. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 14:30, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- @AllegedlyHuman: There are still quite a few problematic sources: BroomfieldPD Twitter, Flightradar24, Aviation-Safety Wiki, AirFleets.net, one YouTube video, and Aerossurance, among others. These need to be replaced. SounderBruce 04:03, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
If We Must Die
- ... that Claude McKay's poem "If We Must Die" has been cited as marking the beginning of the Harlem Renaissance? Source: [https://eis.hu.edu.jo/deanshipfiles/pub108905323.pdf
- ALT1:... that Claude McKay's poem "If We Must Die" has been described as expressing the voice of those who are "fighting with their backs against the wall to win their freedom.”? Source: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/claude-mckay
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/IOU
- Comment: may well be better alts here
5x expanded by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:45, 21 February 2021 (UTC).
- Comment: How is this "Created by..." as the article dates to 2017??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by David notMD (talk • contribs) 05:40, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- David notMD (I think) actually it’s 5x expanded , I’ve amended accordingly. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
River Poddle
- ... that flooding by the River Poddle led to the moving of the graves of Dean Swift of Gulliver's Travels and his friend Stella - and a pool on the same river gave Dublin its name? Source: Swift and Stella - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53.
Name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...)- ALT1:... that flooding by the River Poddle led to the moving of the graves of Dean Swift, author of Gulliver's Travels and A Modest Proposal, and his friend Stella, within St Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin? Source: Swift and Stella - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53.
** ALT2:... that Dubh Linn, a peaty pool on the River Poddle where it joins the Liffey, gave Dublin its name, and the same river was also the city's main source of water for over half a millennium? Source: Dubh Linn pool, peatiness and city name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...), Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc.
- ALT3:... that the River Poddle was the main source of water for Dublin homes and industrial users for over 500 years, and had its own tax to manage flooding risk from the time of Charles II? Source: Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc.
- ALT4:... that the River Poddle's role in the growth of Dublin is referenced multiple times in James Joyce's Finnegans Wake, and that the name of the city comes from a pool on that river? Source: Joycean aspects - D'Arcy, Anne MArie (2013). "Vartryville: Dublin's Water Supply and Joyce's Sublation of Local Givernment". The Joyce Studies Annual. 2013: 252–294, Name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...)
- ALT5:... that the River Poddle, main water source of the city of Dublin for over 500 years, was later so polluted by industry that it allegedly killed cattle and horses drinking from it? Source: Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc., Pollution - McEntee, Don; Corcoran, Michael (2016). "5 (The Poddle)". The Rivers Dodder & Poddle (Dublin City History Engineering, 3) (1st ed.). Dublin, Ireland: Four Courts Press. pp. 51–63.
- ALT6:... that flooding by the River Poddle led to the moving of the graves of satirist Jonathan Swift and his partner Stella Johnson within St Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin?
- ALT7:... that the River Poddle was the main source of water for half a millennium for Dublin, the city being named from a "dark pool" on the river? Source: Dubh Linn pool, peatiness and city name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...), Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc.
- Comment: Expanded in recent days, 5x per DYK Check (and that's without 1036 additional characters not counted by DYK check per known issue with bulleted lines).
Sorry for so many hooks, but there are many angles to the Poddle. 8th nomination, QPQ applicable and performed a couple of weeks back - Template:Did you know nominations/Konrad Rupf
5x expanded by SeoR (talk). Self-nominated at 21:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on February 22[edit]
Reindeer Station
- ... that Andrew Bahr drove a herd of 3,000 reindeer from Nome, Alaska to Reindeer Station, earning the nickname "The Arctic Moses"? Source: "After three years on the trail, only two thousand reindeer were still with the herd. Hundreds had frozen to death, hundreds more bolted and were never recovered, and countless others were weakened by insects and devoured by wolves. The drive was years behind schedule, and all Bahr, who by now had earned the nickname “The Arctic Moses,” could tell the Lomens and the Canadian officials was that he was “making haste slowly.”" [27]
- ALT1:... that the "Arctic Moses" earned his nickname by driving 3,000 reindeer from Nome, Alaska to Reindeer Station?
- Reviewed: This is my second of 5 DYK nominations.
Created by Awmcphee (talk). Self-nominated at 05:58, 26 February 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: @Awmcphee: Nice work on this page. The only small issue is there are a few sentences that paraphrase somewhat closely. Otherwise this is good to go. Epicgenius (talk) 03:08, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Groover's Paradise
- ... that Doug Sahm's album Groover's Paradise was produced by former Creedence Clearwater Revival drummer Doug Clifford?
McDonough, Jack October 26, 1974, Billboard DSR: Abum and QS 'on tour' producers
- ALT1:... that the cover art of Doug Sahm's album Groover's Paradise was designed by Kerry Awn? The Austin Chronicle Music Anthology, p.134
Created by GDuwen (talk). Self-nominated at 20:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on February 23[edit]
A Bitter Heritage (Playhouse 90)
- ... that the 1958 film A Bitter Heritage featured Bewitched star Elizabeth Montgomery as the love interest of Jesse James Jr., the peace-loving son of the notorious outlaw? Source: Here and here
- ALT1:... that Elizabeth Montgomery auditioned without her father's knowledge for the role of Jesse James Jr.'s love interest in A Bitter Heritage? Source: Same sources as alt0
- Reviewed: Zonocerus variegatus
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: The article relies on extensive citations from ctva.biz, which may not be a reliable source. Generally, the plot is not sourced in articles, but this reference is used on the "Production" section, where it lists the producer, director and writer, and when it was aired. Perhaps we can get another reference for this paragraph. There's also an empty "Reception" section. If this will be filled up later on, that's better because the article prose is exactly 1,500 characters, not including the footnotes ("[1]"). I suppose this can lengthen the article some more for it to surpass the 1,500 threshold. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:30, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Mark F. Pomerantz
- ... that attorney Mark F. Pomerantz, who once supervised the prosecution of mob boss John A. Gotti, is now assisting with a criminal investigation into the finances of Donald Trump? (Sources: "Mr. Pomerantz returned to the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office to head the criminal division between 1997 and 1999, overseeing major securities fraud and organized crime cases, perhaps most prominently against John A. Gotti, the Gambino boss."[28] ; "As the Manhattan district attorney’s office steps up the criminal investigation of Donald J. Trump, it has reached outside its ranks to enlist a prominent former federal prosecutor to help scrutinize financial dealings at the former president’s company, according to several people with knowledge of the matter. The former prosecutor, Mark F. Pomerantz, has deep experience investigating and defending white-collar and organized crime cases."[29])
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- Reviewed: Asuka Langley Soryu
Created by MelanieN (talk) and Neutrality (talk). Self-nominated at 23:36, 24 February 2021 (UTC).
Welcome to Heartbreak
- ... that Kanye West was inspired by Dave Sirulnick presenting pictures of his children for "Welcome to Heartbreak"? Source: 2009 Chicken Soup for the Soul: The Story Behind The Song book
- ALT1:... that Kanye West's inspiration for "Welcome to Heartbreak" was Dave Sirulnick showing him pictures of his children? Source: 2009 Chicken Soup for the Soul: The Story Behind The Song book
- Reviewed: Urinothorax
5x expanded by Kyle Peake (talk). Self-nominated at 08:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC).
- Note: I nominated this article back when I did not know the expansion level had to be five times larger; however, I have made it a GAN and I am expecting a review shortly so I will change the expanded text to reading improved to GA status instead, plus for whoever reviews this I presume you can have it on hold for that long. --K. Peake 09:30, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 24[edit]
Karl Schuke
- ... that organ builder Karl Schuke began a branch of his father's workshop in West Berlin in 1953, and built the organs of the Gedächtniskirche (pictured) and the Philharmonie?Source: several
- Reviewed: to come
- Comment: Sorry, I'm a day late - again. I struggled all day yesterday to make a viola player fit for DYK and failed - and forgot this one. - If the image is a problem as the Commons say because of the stained glass, can we perhaps make a crop which leaves so little blue that it's no longer a piece of art? - The two places are Berlin landmarks of architecture after World War II, - I'd love to mention how international the workshop operates but it would get too long. See pics of their organs - some day we should translate the workshop article.
Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 08:23, 4 March 2021 (UTC).
Jakob Grün
- ... that Jakob Grün (pictured), concertmaster of the Vienna Court Opera Orchestra from 1868 to 1897, played solos standing in Hungarian tradition? Source: [30] for the standing, several for the duration
- Reviewed: Patricia Delgado
- Comment: Most sources devote much room to the discrimination in Hannover because he was Jewish, but it's actually a better story about Joachim who quit in solidarity, while Grün is passive in it, and is pictured later. The students educated in Vienna for 31 years are impressive, but not welcome with our audience, also the other image is not as good.
Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 19:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC).
Carol Breen
- ... that Irish woman Carol Breen has played internationally in association and Australian rules football? Source: Assoc football: [31], Aussie rules: [32]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/San Marino in the Eurovision Song Contest
- Comment: Better wording can be suggested. I'm trying to avoid the phrase "played for Ireland" as there are two Irish association football teams (Northern Ireland & Republic of Ireland), whereas Aussie rules seems to have a team for the whole island or Ireland
Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:34, 24 February 2021 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on February 25[edit]
Around the World in 90 Minutes (Playhouse 90)
- ... that Around the World in 90 Minutes featured Elizabeth Taylor cutting a 30-foot-long cake, Walter Cronkite reporting, and Hubert Humphrey delivering a speech? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- Reviewed: Efforts to impeach Andrew Johnson
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC).
The Mystery of Thirteen (Playhouse 90)
- ... that Jack Lemmon starred in The Mystery of Thirteen as a real-life physician (pictured) who Charles Dickens called "the greatest villain that ever stood in the Old Bailey"? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- Reviewed: Girls Marked Danger
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC).
Page size is three characters short of the DYK minimum -- inclined to look the other way on that, but would want a second opinion. Also unsure about whether an image of someone not actually mentioned in the hook is warranted. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 09:32, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 26[edit]
Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl
- ... that Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl will be the first main-series Pokémon games not developed by Game Freak since the franchise's inception 25 years ago? Source: Daily Esports: "ILCA is developing the new Pokémon games. As a result, they are the first main series Pokémon games not developed by Game Freak."
- Reviewed: MewithoutYou discography
Created by Anarchyte (talk). Self-nominated at 05:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC).
- Comment: A potential double DYK is separately proposed at Template:Did you know nominations/Pokémon Legends: Arceus. Juxlos (talk) 05:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Maha Jaafar
- ... that Maha Jaafar, a Sudanese-Iraqi dentistry student has attracted almost two million views for mimicking Arabic dialects and stereotypes on YouTube, just to "have fun with her friends"? Source: “It all happened by coincidence; I was sitting through my final year of dentistry when I posted one video to have fun with my friends,” she says. [1]
- ALT1:... that Maha Jaafar, a UNICEF Sudan National Ambassador, has been credited to help unite people in the Middle East through her comedy sketches on YouTube? Source: "As a fellow of YouTube’s Creators for Change programme, which is aimed at individuals who promote “empathy and understanding,” she is often credited to helping unite people and their cultures through her content."[2]
Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC).
References
- ^ "Meet Maha Jaafar, the UAE vlogger helping to clean up YouTube's reputation". The National. 2018-01-28. Retrieved 2021-02-26.
- ^ "UNICEF Sudan names Maha Jaafar as new National Ambassador for children's rights". www.unicef.org. Retrieved 2021-02-26.
Audrey Forlani
- ... that French rugby union player Audrey Forlani scored a decisive try in the match of the 2016 Women's Six Nations Championship which led to France winning the tournament? Source: [33] "England Women were beaten 17-12 by France in their Six Nations decider at Stade de la Rabine"... "The home side then took the lead for the first time as another driving maul saw Audrey Forlani cross the whitewash"
- ALT1:... that French rugby union player Audrey Forlani works in a farm shop? Source: [34] "Audrey Forlani is a full-time shopkeeper in an agricultural co-operative in Tarn-et-Garonne."
- ALT2:... that France's rugby player, Audrey Forlani's, headaches after a broken nose, caused doctors to shave her hair to fix further damage? Source: ..."a brain operation which forced her to sacrifice her long blonde hair."
Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:57, 27 February 2021 (UTC).
- in progress - length is fine. QPQ done, more than enough refs, I have added extra facts and an extra hook. An overcheck by a French speaker would be appreciated e.g, Can we include the "brain" word in the article/hook? Sadly no image which is a pity as she's all over google images. ALT2 is not very hooky and I'm not sure that she works in a "farm shop". She may sell fertiliser or tractor oil to farmers. ALT1 is fine but I sharpened the hook. No evidence seen of close paraphrasing. Victuallers (talk) 17:18, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Washington State Route 539
- ... that Washington State Route 539 is named the "Guide Meridian" because it follows a surveying meridian? Source: Bellingham Herald
- ALT1:... that a major bridge on Washington State Route 539 was opened days before the 2010 Winter Olympics began in nearby Vancouver? Source: Bellingham Herald
Improved to Good Article status by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 05:17, 27 February 2021 (UTC).
Article is a recent GA, is long enough, and stable. I find the first hook the most interesting. I couldn't verify the name due to a paywall with the source. Could you provide an excerpt? For such a claim though, I would hope there would be a better source to use than a newspaper article that appears to casually mention this while talking about a different subject (a nearby park). Grk1011 (talk) 16:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Grk1011: The clipping and page should be free to view without an account. This was the only source I could find, as this is a niche subject, but is reliable and still of adequate quality. SounderBruce 22:33, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce:, I'm having some trouble with the ref. I think I can read it (right side, lower corner), but it doesn't seem to explicitly state that Route 539 is called the Guide Meridian. Can you clarify? Grk1011 (talk) 19:04, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Grk1011: You can click through to see the full page. It doesn't specifically call out 539 because the name continues beyond the state designation. SounderBruce 04:33, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Would you approve of this ALT: ... that Washington State Route 539, also known as the "Guide Meridian", follows a surveying meridian? Grk1011 (talk) 14:19, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- This wouldn't be notable, as any straight-line road follows some sort of survey meridian. Named guide meridians are less common, and having a road named for one is very rare. SounderBruce 02:13, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'd like to wait for a second opinion then. I don't feel that In Whatcom County, Guide Meridian is exactly 12 miles east of, and parallel to, the Willamette Meridian properly backs up the claim. Why "Guide"? Where I live we don't have many straight roads, so it's not very obvious to me that any straight road would need to follow a meridian. Grk1011 (talk) 15:15, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Grk1011: "Guide Meridian" (all capitalized) in the newspaper source refers to the road's name, not a generic "guide meridian", so it should support the statement. SounderBruce 06:43, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Grk1011 and SounderBruce: It's been a few days since this was last commented on so I thought that I would add in my opinion after I saw Grk1011's request for one. While the newspaper article does not explicitly state that the Guide Meridian is also WA Route 539, it does point out the location of the road that correlates with where we would find the highway designated as WA Route 539. The references in the "early roads" and "state and national highway" sections back up that the two names apply to the same route. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 01:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Tamar (poem)
- ... that Tamar, an epic poem by American writer Robinson Jeffers, makes references to the Books of Samuel in the Old Testament? Source: Centennial Essays for Robinson Jeffers
- Reviewed: Andrew Logan (surgeon)
Created by Ffranc (talk). Nominated by Ashleyyoursmile (talk) at 10:07, 26 February 2021 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on February 27[edit]
Arora Akanksha
- ... that Arora Akanksha (pictured) is the first millennial candidate for Secretary-General of the United Nations? Source: "She is the first person known to officially challenge an incumbent seeking a second term, and the first millennial-generation candidate."[35]
- ALT1:... that Arora Akanksha (pictured), the first millennial candidate for Secretary-General of the United Nations, is a UN auditor who believes the organisation is wasteful and ineffective? Source: "Ms. Arora’s message, she said, is that the United Nations is sclerotic, wasteful, adrift, paternalistic and patronizing...'We are not living up to our purpose or our promise,' the letter stated. 'We are failing those we are here to serve.'"[36]
- Reviewed: Krishna Yadav
Created by Ganesha811 (talk) and Mx. Granger (talk). Nominated by Mx. Granger (talk) at 16:45, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
St. Clair Parkway
- ... that the St. Clair Parkway was the culmination of the efforts of former Wallaceburg, Ontario mayor Alan P. Brander, who oversaw the planting of over 6,000 rose bushes along its length? Source: Ref #57 - "Rose Trail Aid Sought: Brander Outlines Plan for No. 40 Highway" for the 6,000 number. The tieing of the parkway to the efforts of Alan Brander is mentioned in at least a half-dozen references throughout the #Rose Trail section
- ALT1:... that the St. Clair Parkway travels through Corunna, Ontario, a planned town intended to be the capital of the united Upper and Lower Canada when it was established in 1823? Source: Ref #12 - "Founding of Corunna Was a Capital Idea"
- Comment: Can I kindly request that this be held off from being promoted to the queue before next Tuesday? I am awaiting a response from Tourism Sarnia-Lambton for a high-quality image of the parkway.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2006 Football League One play-off Final
5x expanded by Floydian (talk). Self-nominated at 05:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
Zameen (novel)
- ... that the English translation of the novel Zameen is titled A Promised Land?
Source: "A Promised Land, translated by Daisy Rockwell ... Khadija Mastur's posthumous novel Zameen ..." [37]
Created by Idell (talk). Self-nominated at 21:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC).
This article requires considerable work before becoming eligible. @Idell: You could improve the article by adding a brief plot summary, reception section, characters, analysis etc. Currently, it is very small article which ineligible for DYK. --Gazal world (talk) 09:11, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Gazal world: Sure, but the article will become older than seven days, will that be an issue? Idell (talk) 10:33, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Article history says that the article was created on 27 Feb, and was nominated for DYK on 4 March. So it is OK. P.S: The hook is just a random fact. Improve the article, and find out some interesting hook. --Gazal world (talk) 10:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Gazal world: Sure, but the article will become older than seven days, will that be an issue? Idell (talk) 10:33, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
African American scientists and technicians on the Manhattan Project
- ... that African American scientists and technicians on the Manhattan Project included both men and women? Source: Appendix B, "The study team identified 19 African American men and women working on the Manhattan Project as scientists and technicians."
- ALT1:... that African American scientists and technicians on the Manhattan Project were hailed as progressive heroes? Source: Landrum, "Although Ebony had been presenting scientists of color as progressive heroes since the late 1940s, the reality of these men and women’s lives was much more complex"
Created by Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk). Self-nominated at 20:16, 28 February 2021 (UTC).
@Mary Mark Ockerbloom: Interesting topic! New and long enough, within policy, Earwig finds no copyvios (only direct quotes match). There are more interesting facts in the article than the hooks above. It's interesting that even though there was an executive order prohibiting discrimination, African American workers still faced segregation outside and sometimes within the federal installations. Or maybe showcase some of the accomplishments of the individual scientists. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 04:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @John P. Sadowski (NIOSH):, here are some more possible ALTs for you. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that the small number of African American scientists and technicians on the Manhattan Project indicates the structural discrimination that affected them? Source: Landrum These men and women came of age at a time when African Americans increasingly demanded economic, educational, and political opportunities previously enjoyed only by whites. The fact that there were so few of them testifies to the significance of structural discrimination against African Americans and its impact on American scientific research during the early Cold War.
- ALT3:... that the most senior of the African American scientists and technicians on the Manhattan Project, William Knox, supervised the otherwise-white staff of the Corrosion Section at Columbia University? Source: nps.gov Dr. Knox was a research associate and section leader for the corrosion section of Columbia University's nuclear research team. Dr. Knox was the only African American supervisor in the Manhattan Project. Source: Gortler When the Corrosion Section’s leader left, Libby appointed William head of the all-white section.
- ALT4:... that it was considered impossible for one of the African American scientists and technicians on the Manhattan Project to hold a post at Oak Ridge, Tennessee comparable to one at Chicago's Met Lab? Source: Crocker "Mr. Wilkins in Wigner's group at the Metallurgical Laboratory .... is a colored man and since Wigner's group is moving to (Oak Ridge) it is not possible for him to continue work with that group."
Lisa Martin (rugby union)
- ... that in 2008, Scottish rugby union player Lisa Martin captained the side to their first victory in Ireland for 12 years? Source: [38] "Martin played a part in the Scotland Women’s best Women’s Six Nations finish in seven years in 2017 and their first away win in twelve year’s versus Ireland at Donnybrook in 2018."
- ALT1:... that Scottish rugby union player and former captain Lisa Martin has also played club rugby in England and France? Source: [39] "Last season, Martin fulfilled a life-long dream of becoming a full-time rugby player when she signed for French side, Lille Metropole Rugby Club Villeneuvois, but it shows her class that Saracens head coach, Alex Austerberry, jumped at the chance to sign the former Scotland captain when she became available."
Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:04, 27 February 2021 (UTC).
article is new enough, long enough, no obvious copyvio. QPQ checks out too. Both hooks are fine, although I prefer the first one. The only thing here for me is that "the side" is unclear. You may need to include "international" in there after "Scottish" or "national" before "side" to make it unambiguous what "side" she was captaining. Fair enough? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- How about:
- ... that in 2008, Lisa Martin captained the Scotland women's national rugby union team to their first victory in Ireland for 12 years? Joseph2302 (talk) 20:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 28[edit]
Paul Rolan
- ... that Paul Rolan has been Principal Investigator in over 700 clinical research studies of new medicines? Source: "He has been principal investigator in over 700 clinical pharmacology studies including 70 first-in-man studies." ([40] doi:10.2217/pmt.12.12)
- ALT1:... that Paul Rolan investigates the links between the immune system and chronic pain? Source: "A unique partnership between two of the University of Adelaide's senior medical researchers is edging closer to finding new treatments for chronic pain ... Professor Paul Rolan and Dr Mark Hutchinson have combined their different specialist skills to prove a link between pain and the brain's immune system" ([41])
- Reviewed: J. Russell Smith
Moved to mainspace by Gronk Oz (talk). Self-nominated at 07:29, 6 March 2021 (UTC).
Italo-Byzantine

- ... that Vasari disliked the "clumsy Greek style" of Italo-Byzantine painting (example pictured) that preceded the Renaissance? Omissi, Adrastos, "Byzantium and Italian Renaissance Art": "Giorgio Vasari, the Italian painter turned historian, whose 1550 Lives of the Most Excellent Painters, Sculptors, and Architects, from Cimabue to Our Times essentially defined the renaissance – the rinascita – as a rejection of ‘that clumsy Greek style’ (quella greca goffa maniera) and the creation of a new naturalism that captured the human form in ways not known before"; see also Voulgaropoulou, Margarita, "From Domestic Devotions to the Church Altar: Venerating Icons in the Late Medieval and Early Modern Adriatic", in Ryan, Salvador (ed), Domestic Devotions in Medieval and Early Modern Europe, 2020, MDPI Books, (reprint from Religions in 2019), online top of p. 203.
Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 03:11, 6 March 2021 (UTC).
Bahattin Hekimoğlu
- ... that Turkish world and European champion para archer Bahattin Hekimoğlu closed himself at home for two years after he broke his neck and got paralyzed? Source: "Hekimoğlu, Avrupa'da da şampiyon olduktan sonra dünya şampiyonu olmayı başardı." (in Turkish) [42], "Boynu kırılan Hekimoğlu,", "Geçirdiği ameliyatın ardından artık felç olduğunu öğrenen Hekimoğlu, iki yıl kendisini eve kapattı." (in Turkish) [43]
- Reviewed: Cromwell House
Created/expanded by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 06:33, 2 March 2021 (UTC).
- The phrase "closed himself at home" is very odd English, it needs to be fixed. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
A City Called Copenhagen
- ... that the short documentary film A City Called Copenhagen was initially not released due to the film commission disliking the film, but it was shown two years later to positive reception?
- Reviewed: Big Red Envelope
5x expanded by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC).
Broad front versus narrow front controversy in World War II
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that perhaps no decision of General Dwight D. Eisenhower (pictured) generated more polemics than the broad front versus narrow front controversy in World War II?Source: "Of all decisions made at the level of the Supreme Allied Commander in western Europe during World War II, perhaps none has excited more polemics than that which raised the 'one-thrust-broad front' controversy".[44]
Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:57, 28 February 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article was recently promoted to GA. Overall article sourcing, neutrality, and plagiarism is assumed to have been covered during the GAN. The picture is acceptable, but most people know what Eisenhower looks like, so I'm not sure it adds much. My main concerns are about phrasing and interestingness.
Regarding phrasing, "polemics" is uncommon, anachronistic language that also mirrors the source a little uncomfortably closely, so I'd suggest a different word choice. The meaning of "broad front versus narrow front" also might be a bit unclear to or require a bit of inference from non-expert readers, so if you can think of a way to concisely explain it, that might be good (if not, it's alright enough).
Regarding interestingness, it's not bad (and my standards are stricter than most DYK reviewers), but I'd be curious to hear if you have any ALTs. You seemed to begin an ALT1 but didn't fill it out. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 05:44, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Originally I intended to use the quote, but it was too long.
- I don't normally offer up ALTs because they deter reviewers.
- I'm not sure Ike is that well known any more; you'd have to be a boomer or someone who reads 20th century history to remember him.
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
The original hook doesn't read right because a decision is not a controversy. Ike's decision was to stick to a broad front. The controversy was the debate before and after. Ruppenthal's quote expresses this more accurately: "Of all decisions made at the level of the Supreme Allied Commander in western Europe during World War II, perhaps none has excited more polemics than that which raised the 'one-thrust-broad front' controversy." Squeezing all this into a hook seems challenging, so let's try some controversial ALTs:
- ALT1 ... that during an argument about his broad front, Ike (pictured) put his hand on Monty's knee? Source: "Pulling Eisenhower’s recent signals from his pocket, he exclaimed, 'They’re balls, sheer balls, rubbish!' Perhaps only Eisenhower would have the forbearance to sit in stony silence while a subordinate verbally assaulted him. When Montgomery at last paused for breath, Eisenhower put his hand on Montgomery’s knee and gently said, 'Steady, Monty! You can’t speak to me like that. I’m your boss.'".[45]
- ALT2 ... that when arguing for a narrow front, Monty (pictured) called Ike's signals, "nothing but balls"?
Andrew🐉(talk) 11:27, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- These sound fine. (I'm inclined towards the second.) I've provided an online source for checking. Changed "orders" to "messages". Montgomery never disobeyed orders, but Eisenhower was reluctant to issue them. As the article points out, Montgomery was the senior officer even though Eisenhower was the boss. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:45, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Good. As a further tweak, I suggest "signals" rather than "messages". It is slightly shorter, follows the source and works a bit better as a hook, IMO – more likely to get the reader wondering what was going on.
- These sound fine. (I'm inclined towards the second.) I've provided an online source for checking. Changed "orders" to "messages". Montgomery never disobeyed orders, but Eisenhower was reluctant to issue them. As the article points out, Montgomery was the senior officer even though Eisenhower was the boss. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:45, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Sdkb: As the primary reviewer, you should please check these ALTs. I can't approve them myself as I'm too involved.
- Andrew🐉(talk) 23:48, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Andrew Davidson, sorry, I'm not a fan of using first names like that; it doesn't seem encyclopedic. Your alts are also missing the very core context that we're talking about WW2. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:10, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- "Ike" is perfectly acceptable in this context IMHO. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:58, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- I agree with Maury. Note also that both Ike and Monty are abbreviations of their last names, not their first names. Abbreviations seem appropriate for hooks, which are supposed to be "short, punchy, catchy". Andrew🐉(talk) 17:06, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- "Ike" is perfectly acceptable in this context IMHO. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:58, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Andrew Davidson, sorry, I'm not a fan of using first names like that; it doesn't seem encyclopedic. Your alts are also missing the very core context that we're talking about WW2. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:10, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
G. E. L. Owen
- ... that the philosopher G. E. L. Owen was described by Martha Nussbaum (pictured) as "an alcoholic and an attempted womaniser"? Source: My thesis adviser, G. E. L. Owen, was a brilliant scholar of ancient Greek philosophy. He was also an alcoholic and an attempted womaniser. Nussbaum (2003) 97.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Brian Lee Durfee
- Comment:
Should the expansion be a problem: this version had 2136 prose characters; after my expansion, the article now has 10759 prose charactersNever mind this, the article was since promoted to GA status.
5x expanded by Modussiccandi (talk). Self-nominated at 00:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC).
- Comment: You could add the high quality photo of Nussbaum to the hook. Although I know this is more focused Owen than her.TJMSmith (talk) 04:07, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, that's not a bad idea at all. Modussiccandi (talk) 09:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 1[edit]
Aedes de Venustas
- ... that the signature fragrance of Aedes de Venustas perfumery (store window, pictured) is based on rhubarb and tomato leaf? Source: "....aroma that surpasses any single ingredient's scent ... tomato leaf ...green, rhubarb core" Vanity Fair
- ALT1:... that perfumery Aedes de Venustas (store window, pictured) has two fragrances named after the store and both were created by Bertrand Duchaufour? Source, 2012: "To create the first stand-alone fragrance for New York’s beloved olfactory boutique__Aedes de Venustas__, proprietor Robert Gerstner said, he and partner Karl Bradl, along with perfumer Bertrand Duchaufour..." (Vanity Fair) and 2008: “A scent that L'Artisan developed in conjunction with Aedes de Venustas the perfume boutique located in New York will be unveiled at the shop...bringing in Duchaufour has given L'Artisan more freedom to do custom collaborations.” (["L'Artisan Looks to the Power of Three" Women’s Wear Daily, paywalled])
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marty McHale
- Comment: If not too late, perhaps for March 21, International Fragrance Day? Meanwhile I’m not wedded to including the picture although the peacock is often featured in photos of the shop’s decor, cf, https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2012/06/Call-it-Aedes-de-Venustass-Very-Own
Moved to mainspace by Innisfree987 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC).
Elsa Dreisig
- ... that Elsa Dreisig appeared at the Berlin State Opera in soprano roles from Diane in Rameau's Hippolyte et Aricie to Natascha in the world premiere of Beat Furrer's Violetter Schnee? Source: [46], [47]
- Reviewed: Elizabeth Cressener
Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC).
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Articles created/expanded on March 2[edit]
Nicola Jürgensen
- ... that the clarinetist Nicola Jürgensen performed on stage the Eve character with her basset horn in Karlheinz Stockhausen's Michaels Reise um die Erde in Vienna and New York City? Source: several
- Reviewed: to come
Created by LouisAlain (talk), Grimes2 (talk), and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 19:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Benedict J. Fernandez
- ... that photographer Benedict J. Fernandez was invited several times to the home of Martin Luther King Jr. (pictured), where he was able to see him "as a man, a father, a husband"? Source: The New York Times
- ALT1:... that Benedict J. Fernandez was introduced to Alexey Brodovitch by a fellow photographer to whom Fernandez gave spare roll films? Source: The New York Times
- Reviewed: Les Ambassadeurs Club
- Comment: Please save for April 5, his 85th birthday. Eligible per Rule 1d, because it only appeared in the "Recent Deaths" section of ITN and not as a bold link.
5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:33, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Dalby Church
- ... that Dalby Church (pictured) in Sweden may once have been part of a Danish royal palace complex? Source: Andrén 2012, p. 359 makes the claim most forecully.
- ALT1:... that Dalby Church (pictured) is sometimes claimed to be the oldest stone church in the Nordic countries still in use? Source: Dahlberg & Sjöstrom 2015, p. 57, for example. Several sources quoted in the article, making this claim.
Improved to Good Article status by Yakikaki (talk). Self-nominated at 22:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC).
Relapse 2
- ... that despite completing the album, Eminem scrapped Relapse 2 in favor of Recovery? Source: Billboard
Converted from a redirect by RealFakeKim (talk). Self-nominated at 15:12, 2 March 2021 (UTC).
List of international goals scored by Dwayne De Rosario
- ... that Dwayne De Rosario is Canada's all-time leading male goalscorer in soccer with 22 international goals? Source: Globe and Mail, SportsNet/Canadian Press
- Reviewed: United Airlines Flight 328
Created by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 04:47, 2 March 2021 (UTC).
nice list, no copyvio, looks good. A couple of things: (a) the actual sport Dwayne plays isn't mentioned in the hook and (b) is there an overall source which dates more recently than 2015 for him still being Canada's top scorer? I don't doubt he is but six years is a long time for someone else to have potentially crept past him. Even the RSSSF source is dated from two years ago. Is there a list of Canada's top scorers overall we could find? Also need a QPQ of course. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: Fixed the hook, added a source from 2019, and added a QPQ. Unfortunately, Canada has had terrible luck in international soccer (scoring once in 13 games in 2013, for example), but is on the upswing as of late, so this record could be surpassed sometime in the decade. SounderBruce 02:12, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
EMER-K1
- ... that the EMER-K1 was created by Myanmar because China refused to ship further QBZ-97 assault rifles due to sanctions?
- ALT1:... that the EMER-K1 was created by Myanmar when QBZ-97 assault rifles sold to them were reverse engineered?
Created by Ominae (talk). Self-nominated at 08:29, 2 March 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: the article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, adequately cited and neutrally written. Earwig's tool did not detect any copyvio. AGF for ALT0 ( offline source), the other hook is appropriately sourced. QPQ not done! As soon as a QPQ will be done, I will give the ok. Alex2006 (talk) 19:14, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Alessandro57: Understood. Thanks. Ominae (talk) 04:52, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 3[edit]
LeRoy Woodson
- ... that photojournalist LeRoy Woodson documented steel industry pollution (pictured) for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in 1972? Source: "LeRoy Woodson, photojournalist and contributing photographer to the Environmental Protection Agency's Documerica project in the early 1970s." Photo at National Archives)
- ALT1:... that LeRoy Woodson's photographs of steel industry pollution (example pictured) were part of the Environmental Protection Agency's Documerica project? Source: "LeRoy Woodson, photojournalist and contributing photographer to the Environmental Protection Agency's Documerica project in the early 1970s." Photo at National Archives)
- ALT2:... that LeRoy Woodson captured steel industry pollution (pictured) for the Documerica project? Source: "LeRoy Woodson, photojournalist and contributing photographer to the Environmental Protection Agency's Documerica project in the early 1970s." Photo at National Archives)
- ALT3:... that LeRoy Woodson photographed the effects of pollution in Birmingham (pictured) for the Documerica project? Source: "LeRoy Woodson, photojournalist and contributing photographer to the Environmental Protection Agency's Documerica project in the early 1970s." Photo at National Archives)
- ALT4:... that LeRoy Woodson suggested that the ideal size for a hamburger is "somewhere around five ounces". Source: "'Burgers do have an optimal size,' says LeRoy Woodson, Jr. 'Somewhere around five ounces.'" San Diego Reader.
- Reviewed: Auf meinen lieben Gott
- Comment: There are a bunch of other photographs taken by Woodson on Commons that could also be used to depict the aforementioned pollution.
Created by Gobonobo (talk). Self-nominated at 03:55, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
Andrew Russell Murray
- ... that Andrew Russell Murray, pioneer of pollicization and of finger joint replacement, was shot dead by Karl Katz in the Brisbane medical massacre? Source: Hooper, Journal of Bone and Joint Surgery, Cumming
- ALT1:... that Andrew Russell Murray, pioneer of finger joint replacement, was shot dead by Karl Katz in the Brisbane medical massacre? Source: Hooper, Journal of Bone and Joint Surgery, Cumming
Created by Iainmacintyre (talk). Self-nominated at 14:34, 4 March 2021 (UTC).
2002 Football League Third Division play-off Final
- ... that the 2002 Football League Third Division play-off Final was one of the last matches shown on the ITV Sport Channel?
5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 21:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC).
Chinatown MRT station
- ... that constructing Chinatown station required diverting the Eu Tong Sen Canal into steel pipes, one of Singapore's largest drainage diversions? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- ALT1:... that instead of demolishing the Garden Bridge for the construction of Chinatown station, the cultural landmark was underpinned by massive steel trusses? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- ALT2:... that the artwork at Chinatown station features Chinese calligraphy on the floor instead of the walls in auspicious positions?
Improved to Good Article status by ZKang123 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:06, 3 March 2021 (UTC).
Motherboy XXX
- ... that the original name for the Arrested Development episode "Motherboy XXX" was an advertisement for Burger King? Source:[1]
- Comment: This is my first dyk nomination. Hope I'm doing it all right.
Converted from a redirect by Microwavedfork (talk). Self-nominated at 02:07, 9 March 2021 (UTC).
References
- ^ Giannini, Erin. "The Big Shill: Branding and Niche Programming on American Television". Retrieved 9 March 2021.
Articles created/expanded on March 4[edit]
Yellow Drawing Room
- ... that 4 year old Prince Charles took photographs from a 9ft tall ladder? Source: "I resorted to firing off a number of action shots with a camera. At the sight of this Prince Charles perked up. "What are you doing?" he asked. I told him, whereupon his immediate response was, "Can I come up there and take one of you?" "Of course," I replied, absently not dreaming that he meant it ... "Just look a little mon,. to the left and keep like that." I reeled off more shots. Finally I told him the ordeal was over and thanked him for posing. His instant reply was: "Well, can I come up now and take a picture of you?" I looked anxiously at Nurse Lightbody-Nurse Lightbody looked uneasily at me. "Well, as you've promised ..." Together we hoisted the Heir Apparent up the ladder. The 9 foot structure now seemed horribly high, and I had visions of a body hurtling to the ground, the royal neck broken and myself under guard, being frogmarched to the Tower. The Prince had no such misgivings. Impatiently, he waited while I hung the strap around his neck and explained the camera's workings, then, waving an imperious hand in my direction, he ordered: "Now you go down there and be Prince Charles." Somewhat startled by this suggested reversal of our roles, I hurriedly complied, smiling bravely up at him from the gallery. The camera clicked and the deed was done" ("The Coronation Painting", 29 October 1977, The Illustrated London News)
- ALT1:... that a hologram was made out of 10,000 pictures of Queen Elizabeth II? Source: "To create the image, Levine took more than 10,000 images of the monarch during two sittings in the Yellow Drawing Room of Buckingham Palace before selecting the ones for the final hologram." (Hologram image of Queen unveiled, 22 June 2004, BBC News)
- ALT2:... that it took a month to remove Queen Elizabeth II's Chinese wallpaper? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" ("At Buckingham Palace a team of experts have just spent a month painstakingly removing the exquisite Chinese wallpaper from the Yellow Drawing Room so that it can be properly conserved..." Buckingham Palace restorers take a month to remove Chinese wallpaper, Valentine Low, 8 February 2020, The Times)
- ALT3:... that Queen Elizabeth II was turned into a hologram in 2004? Source: "To create the image, Levine took more than 10,000 images of the monarch during two sittings in the Yellow Drawing Room of Buckingham Palace before selecting the ones for the final hologram." (Hologram image of Queen unveiled, 22 June 2004, BBC News)
- ALT4:... that there are dragons in Buckingham Palace? Source: "The fantastically elaborate marble mantelpiece which came from the Saloon, is of white marble bordered by ormolu. Its frieze, decorated with two dragon headed serpents centering upon a sunflower is supported by steel columns up which two winged ormolu dragons climb" (Clifford Smith, Harold (1931). Buckingham Palace: Its Furniture, Decoration & History London: Country Life, pg 223.)
- Reviewed: 2 Broadway
- Comment: Could I have this as an April Fool's Day DYK?
Created by No Swan So Fine (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 7 March 2021 (UTC).
- Sorry, but I don't see what makes this April 1 material. It's quirky, perhaps, but where's the fooling? EEng 19:51, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hmmmm, you might be right. I'll have to get my jester's cap on and do some more ALTs. No Swan So Fine (talk) 19:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- I've added some more. No Swan So Fine (talk) 15:49, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hmmmm, you might be right. I'll have to get my jester's cap on and do some more ALTs. No Swan So Fine (talk) 19:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Elizabeth Sander
- ... that when Elizabeth Sander, a nun, had escaped twice from imprisonment for carrying "lewd books" she returned to Winchester Castle to show that she was law abiding? ...breakyng pryson', left to attend mass, where she was ... imprisoned at Winchester Castle...she escaped this second imprisonment 'downe by a rope over the castle wall'. She then encountered additional priests who urged her 'to go back agayne to pryson' at Winchester Castle. (ODNB)
- ALT1:... that ...? ...
- Reviewed: Audrey Forlani
Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 15:35, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
Phil Chisnall
- ... that Phil Chisnall moved from Manchester United to Liverpool in April 1964, becoming the last player to be transferred directly between the two clubs? Source: Sky Sports obit; The Guardian (from 2007)
- ALT1:... that Phil Chisnall is the last player to be transferred directly between Manchester United and Liverpool? Source: Sky Sports obit; The Guardian (from 2007)
- ALT2:... that Phil Chisnall operated two betting shops and worked as a factory processor and at a malt loaf bakery after his association football career ended? Source: Manchester United (all 3 jobs); The Guardian (betting shops + factory processor); Liverpool Echo (malt loaf)
- Reviewed: Second review of HMS Surly (1855)
- Comment: Eligible per Rule 1d, because it only appeared in the "Recent Deaths" section of ITN and not as a bold link.
5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:19, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
Art Potter
- ... that Art Potter once ordered the "unusual scene" of five ice hockey players beginning a game in the penalty box? [48]
- ALT1:... that Edmonton's Mr. Hockey was a hands-on administrator even at the risk of frostbite? [49]
- Reviewed: Benjamin Philip Watson
Created by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 21:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC).
Supersonus
- ... that the katydid genus Supersonus has been considered as having the loudest ultrasonic noise of the animal kingdom? Source: "males of Supersonus spp. call females at 115 kHz, 125 kHz, and 150 kHz."
Created/expanded by Mk170101 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:20, 4 March 2021 (UTC).
Article is ineligible for DYK as it currently has 603 characters of prose (it needs 1,500 characters at minimum). Mk170101, please see WP:DYKRULES for more information. There are scripts that can help you check the article length (see Wikipedia:Prosesize or User:Shubinator/DYKcheck). If you can further expand the article in the next few days and would like the DYK nomination to be reconsidered, just ping me here and I'd be happy to review. DanCherek (talk) 04:01, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 5[edit]
Mississippi–Alabama barrier islands
- ... that the Mississippi–Alabama barrier islands have rapidly shrunken and drifted westward since first being mapped in the 1800s? Source: " The Mississippi-Alabama (MS-AL) barrier islands are undergoing rapid land loss and translocation ... the centroids of most of the islands are migrating westward" ([50] p.1)
- ALT1:... that the Mississippi–Alabama barrier islands are shrinking at accelerating rates, mainly because of a deficit in their sediment budget caused by dredging? Source: "The principal causes of barrier island land loss are frequent intense storms, a relative rise in sea level, and a deficit in the sediment budget. The only factor that has a historical trend that coincides with the progressive increase in rates of land loss is the progressive reduction in sand supply associated with nearly simultaneous deepening of channels dredged across the outer bars of the three tidal inlets maintained for deep-draft shipping." ([51] p.1)
- Reviewed: KOKL
Improved to Good Article status by Bryanrutherford0 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:19, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Steve Cherry
- ... that professional footballer Steve Cherry injured himself trying to prevent his pet kitten escaping the house? Source: Cherry, Steve; Nicholas, Jonathan (2018). Cherry Picking. The Book Guild Ltd. ISBN 978-1912575-831.
- ALT1:... that a two-year old Steve Cherry woke his family with his teething cries during a house fire? Source: Cherry, Steve; Nicholas, Jonathan (2018). Cherry Picking. The Book Guild Ltd. ISBN 978-1912575-831.
- ALT2:... that Steve Cherry prevented an unconscious John Fashanu from choking on his tongue? Source: Cherry, Steve; Nicholas, Jonathan (2018). Cherry Picking. The Book Guild Ltd. ISBN 978-1912575-831.
- ALT3:... that professional footballer Steve Cherry was described as a "goalkeeper, wit, raconteur and failed anorexic" after struggling to keep his weight down? Source: Cherry, Steve; Nicholas, Jonathan (2018). Cherry Picking. The Book Guild Ltd. ISBN 978-1912575-831.
- Reviewed: Chang Yun Chung
Improved to Good Article status by EchetusXe (talk). Self-nominated at 11:39, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
Lu Li'an
- ... that in the Taiwan delegation at the 2017 National Congress of the Communist Party of China, only one delegate, Lu Li'an, was born in Taiwan? Source: [52][53]
- Reviewed: Robert W. Forden
Created by Mx. Granger (talk). Self-nominated at 10:22, 7 March 2021 (UTC).
Octet (Bruch)
- ... that the String Octet by Max Bruch was premiered in a live BBC broadcast in 1937 and then forgotten for several decades? Source: [56], page 6
- ALT1:... that the final movement of Max Bruch's String Octet, written when he was gravely ill, seems to express his hope of regaining enough strength to revisit some of the places of his youth? Source: [57], page 5
- Reviewed: 1200 Stewart
Created by Intforce (talk). Self-nominated at 03:06, 6 March 2021 (UTC).
Archimedean Excogitation
- ... that the rolling ball sculpture Archimedean Excogitation (pictured) is 27 feet (8.2 m) tall and has a system of nine tracks with almost 30 moving or sound-producing components? Source: Height, tracks, component count
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tobias Watkins
- Comment: I wish I had a precise count of the components, but that doesn't seem to be publicly available.
Created by Sdkb (talk). Self-nominated at 19:16, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
Osman Erbaş, 2021 TAF AS532 crash
- ( Article history links: Osman Erbaş
- 2021 TAF AS532 crash )
- ... that Lieutenant General Osman Erbaş was one of 11 Turkish military personnel killed in a 4 March 2021 helicopter crash? "An army helicopter crashed in eastern Turkey on Thursday, killing 11 military personnel on board and injuring two others ... The victims included Lt. Gen. Osman Erbas, an army corps commander" from US News
- Reviewed: Last two credits remaining from QPQ at Template:Did you know nominations/Mother to Son
- Comment: Crash article is at WP:ITN/C but unlikely to be posted
Created by Dumelow (talk) and Solavirum (talk). Nominated by Dumelow (talk) at 18:43, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
Harry F. Sinclair House
- ... that the Ukrainian American Institute's 1955 purchase of the Harry F. Sinclair House (pictured) saved it from demolition when other Fifth Avenue mansions were being razed? Source: Duncan, Val (October 13, 1961). "The Glamor Is Fading on Fifth Avenue: Changing Face of 'Glamor Avenue'". Newsday. p. 1.
- ALT1:... that Isaac D. Fletcher, satisfied with the design of his residence (pictured), hired Jean-François Raffaëlli to create a painting of it? Source: Sterling, Charles (1966). French Paintings: A Catalogue of the Collection of The Metropolitan Museum of Art. 2, Nineteenth Century. Metropolitan Museum of Art. p. 218.
- ALT2:... that the "fairy-tale palace" Harry F. Sinclair House (pictured), once home to magnates Isaac D. Fletcher and Harry F. Sinclair, later contained the Ukrainian American Institute? Source: (1) Gray, Christopher (November 3, 1996). "Limestone Remnant of Fifth Avenue's Chateau Days" (2) Strausbaugh, John (December 14, 2007). "In the Mansion Land of the 'Fifth Avenoodles'". The New York Times.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/_
- Comment: QPQ pending. More hooks may come later.
Improved to Good Article status by Vami IV (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 17:24, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
John-Michael Caprio
- ... that when John-Michael Caprio became director of music at the Roman Catholic St. Patrick's Cathedral, he ordered the choir's robes replaced because they looked "too Protestant"? Source: Basile, Fifth Avenue Famous, p. 267 (ISBN 978-0-8232-3187-4)
- ALT1:... that John-Michael Caprio died on Christmas Day, 1997, two hours after the music he arranged was performed at the St. Patrick's Cathedral Christmas Midnight Mass? Source: Basile, Fifth Avenue Famous, p. 291 (ISBN 978-0-8232-3187-4)
- ALT1a:... that St. Patrick's Cathedral music director John-Michael Caprio died two hours after his choir sang at Christmas Midnight Mass? Source: see ALT1, above
- Reviewed: Candace Brightman
Created by JGHowes (talk). Self-nominated at 16:53, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
Noah Beck
- ... that Noah Beck, a social medial personality and former college footballer, wore fishnet tights, cuffed jeans, and stiletto heels for a digital cover of VMan magazine? Source: "Noah Beck Poses in Fishnet Tights, Cuffed Jeans & Stiletto Heels for ‘VMan’" [58]
- ALT1:... that social media personality Noah Beck was a midfielder on the Portland Pilots men's soccer team? Source: "Beck was recruited to play midfield for the University of Portland in 2019" [59]
Created by TJMSmith (talk). Self-nominated at 14:15, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
Theodore Cohen (chemist)

- ... that Ted Cohen's romance was put to music by Isaac Asimov (pictured)?
- Reviewed: Broad front versus narrow front controversy in World War II
- Comment: Currently at AfD but unlikely to be deleted. The Asimov anecdotes come from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk) and Andrew Davidson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk) at 12:14, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
- Reviewing...long enough, 5x expanded, nice hook, no copyvio issues. QPQ provided. Will go through in detail and complete soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:54, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... Ted Cohen was guided towards science instead of medicine after a chance encounter with Isaac Asimov while waiting tables?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Maury Markowitz (talk • contribs) 16:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: It seems odd to use Asimov's image here, and it's not used in the article. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
...@David Eppstein:, @Andrew Davidson:. Referenced, hook in article. Agree with not using image that is not in article. His biggest impact and achievement is in the laboratory synthesis of what makes up the scaffolding of drugs, one important aspect of drug discovery and development. May I suggest
- Comment: It seems odd to use Asimov's image here, and it's not used in the article. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- tidy lead so that some of also appears in main text eg the synthesis of phenols.
- Move references to main text once appropriate.
- Add his most important publications to reflect what he is known for.
- Expand, if only a little, on the synthesis of phenols.
I'm glad the notability tag is now removed. He appears clearly notable to me. An alternative hook based on drug discovery would be good. These are suggestions, otherwise will pass it by dyk rules. Thank you and well done. Whispyhistory (talk) 03:56, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 6[edit]
Tommy Turtle
- ... that after a Falklands War adventure with rigid inflatable boats in Stromness Bay, South Georgia (pictured), Tommy Turtle's Troop of the SAS renamed itself "The South Georgia Boating Club"?
Source: "Major Tommy Turtle, SAS soldier who took part in crucial operations during the Falklands War – obituary", The Daily Telegraph, 4 March 2021, accessed 6 March 2021 (subscription required)
- Reviewed: Southern brown howler
Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 01:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC).
Nicola Formby
- ... that Nicola Formby has recalled growing up in South Africa when "dogs lived in kennels outside and never ever came into the house with their muddy paws"?
Source: Christa D'Souza, "Barking mad", The Sunday Times, Sunday 1 October 2006, accessed 6 March 2021 (subscription required)- ALT1:... that Nicola Formby has warned "They are often frightened – a pretty girl is a big trophy and they get pre-match nerves and don’t know what to do with you"?
Source: Jurgen Gregersen, ed., The Book of Contemporary Quotes (Ravan Press, 1997), p. 82
- ALT1:... that Nicola Formby has warned "They are often frightened – a pretty girl is a big trophy and they get pre-match nerves and don’t know what to do with you"?
- Reviewed: Andorra at the 2010 Winter Olympics
Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 13:42, 7 March 2021 (UTC).
Aria (manga)
- ... that many locations in the Aria manga are based on real-life Venice? Source: "...including St. Mark's Square, Doge's Palace, Bridge of Sighs, Palazzo Contarini del Bovolo, Rialto Bridge, and Burano island."
- ALT1:... that the calendar in the Aria manga is based on that of Mars? Source: Amano, Kozue (February 2008). "Navigation 06: My First Customer". Aqua volume 2. Tokyopop. p. 7. ISBN 978-1-4278-0313-9.
- Reviewed: John Morkel
Improved to Good Article status by 0qd (talk). Self-nominated at 20:09, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
A Ruined Life
- ... that A Ruined Life was the first film by director Victor Sjöström to be shown in Sweden because his earlier film, The Gardener, was censored for 68 years? Sources: "... entre las que destacan su debut Ett Hemligt Giftermål (1912) ..." from [60] (in Spanish); "Le premier film de Victor Sjöström, le Jardinier, réalisé en 1912, avait disparu après avoir été interdit par la censure et n'avoir jamais été officiellement distribué... sa première projection publique suédoise n'a eu lieu que le 1er novembre 1980, soit 68 ans après sa réalisation." from Positif source (in French)
- ALT1:... that the 1912 silent film A Ruined Life was the debut film of Swedish actors Greta Almroth and Richard Lund? Source: "Filmen innebar debut i film för såväl Greta Almroth som Richard Lund." from [61] (in Swedish)
- Reviewed: Poème roumain
5x expanded by DanCherek (talk). Self-nominated at 18:30, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Before expansion, the character count was 234 according to Special:PermanentLink/1001582327, after expansion the prose count stands at 3604 Special:PermanentLink/1011040091, so 5X expanded within the last seven days. The article is new enough, long enough, well-referenced, neutrally written with no significant copyvios (score amazing at 2.9%). Both hooks are cited-inline in the article and are interesting; either could be used but I prefer the first hook. The source is in foreign language so I'll AGF on it. A QPQ has been done by the nominator. Good to go! :) Ashleyyoursmile! 05:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Myra MacDonald
- ... that Myra MacDonald, whose career as a foreign correspondent for Reuters spanned virtually three decades, and who covered South Asia for a long time, wrote three books on India and Pakistan? Source: see the article..
Created by MBlaze Lightning (talk). Self-nominated at 13:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Paul B. Kidd
- ... that Australian talk show host Paul B. Kidd is a prolific true crime writer who has written 37 books? Source: talk show host, publication count
- Reviewed: Invisible Cities (album)
- Comment: I'm an idiot and forgot to add this to DYKN for two days, sorry. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 00:45, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Created by Vaticidalprophet (talk). Self-nominated at 05:33, 6 March 2021 (UTC).
Kaktovik numerals
- ... that the Kaktovik numerals are an iconic, base-20 numeral system created by Alaskan Iñupiat, with shapes that visually indicate the numbers being represented?
Improved to Good Article status by Kwamikagami (talk). Self-nominated at 20:03, 7 March 2021 (UTC).
- Akrasia25 was the original author of the article, don't see where to add their name.
- thank you. Would be my very first DYK article. --Akrasia25 (talk) 17:46, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Luis Salvador (politician)
- ... that Luis Salvador became mayor of Granada in 2019, even though his party won only four of 27 seats? Source: "Los corporativos han elegido al candidato del Ciudadanos, Luis Salvador, que se ha sido investido con el apoyo de PP y Vox. Y ello en minoría absoluta, pese a tener solo cuatro de los 27 concejales". Translation: "The members have chosen the candidate from Citizens, who has been invested with the support of PP and Vox. And in an absolute minority, in spite of having only four of the 27 councillors" ([62])
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- Comment: I've made a lot of articles recently but only this fact really took the biscuit and made me want to go to DYK. It's certainly not unusual to make a coalition government anywhere in the world, but it is unusual when the leader of the junior partner gets the top job! I think the Morphopsychology story about this candidate is more interesting, but I understand that hooks should not be negative.
Created by Unknown Temptation (talk). Self-nominated at 23:03, 6 March 2021 (UTC).
Port Way

- ... that historians aren't agreed on how Port Way (pictured) entered the Roman town of Calleva Atrebatum?
- Reviewed: TBC
5x expanded by MIDI (talk). Self-nominated at 21:28, 6 March 2021 (UTC).
Yuri (genre)
- ... that use of the term yuri to describe a genre of Japanese media focusing on intimate relationships between female characters originates from a gay men's magazine? Source: Yuricon
- ALT1:... that most early yuri works, a genre of Japanese media focusing on intimate relationships between female characters, were tragedies focused on doomed relationships that ended in separation or death? Source: Drawing Out Lesbians: Blurred Representations of Lesbian Desire in Shōjo Manga
- ALT2:... that Sailor Moon contributed significantly to the development of yuri, a genre of media focusing on intimate relationships between female characters? Source: Women-Loving Women in Modern Japan
Improved to Good Article status by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC).
New York Produce Exchange
- ... that the New York Produce Exchange's headquarters was the world's first building with a superstructure combining wrought iron and masonry? Source: Stern, Robert A. M.; Gilmartin, Gregory; Massengale, John Montague (1983). New York 1900: Metropolitan Architecture and Urbanism, 1890-1915. New York: Rizzoli. p. 146
- ALT1:... that the New York Produce Exchange, once one of New York City's busiest exchanges, later dissolved into a real estate investment trust? Source: (1) "The New York Produce Exchange.; Wide Scope of Its Operations and History of Its Growth". The New York Times. September 22, 1901. p. 21 (2) "Produce Exchange Dissolved Into Realty Business Trust". Wall Street Journal. May 29, 1973. p. 31.
- ALT2:... that the New York Produce Exchange's business was described in 1886, as "callithumpian discord" with "fiendish screeches"? Source: Gray, Christopher (August 21, 2014). "A Brick Beauty Bites the Dust". The New York Times.
- ALTBP1:... that the New York Produce Exchange, converted into a realty trust, sold off 2 Broadway following a dispute over the cost of a land lease? Source: Metz, Robert (December 14, 1983). "Patience is a virtue that can pay off handsomely". New York Daily News. p. 106. Note: This alt can only be used if it's approved simultaneously with the same hook at Template:Did you know nominations/2 Broadway.
- ALTBP2:... that the New York Produce Exchange agreed to demolish its old headquarters in exchange for ownership of land under 2 Broadway, a new skyscraper being built at the same site? Source: "Produce Exchange's Building To Be Razed". New York Herald Tribune. May 8, 1956. p. 18. Note: This alt can only be used if it's approved simultaneously with the same hook at Template:Did you know nominations/2 Broadway.
- Reviewed: KQLO
- Comment: See the note for the ALTBP hooks. There are two hooks at Template:Did you know nominations/2 Broadway (already approved) which are exactly the same, and must be approved simultaneously.
5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 18:14, 6 March 2021 (UTC).
Borgo Santo Spirito
- ... that Borgo Santo Spirito (pictured) was named after a fortified complex for Anglo-Saxon pilgrims to Rome? Source: "Qui era la Schola Saxonum e dall'ospizio di questa nazione prese nome la via oggi cosi' chiamata dall'ospedale omonimo" (Delli (1988), p. 196, sub voce)
- ALT1:... that in the 15th century an important relic of Christianity, the Veil of Veronica, was displayed in Borgo Santo Spirito (pictured) at the end of a solemn procession? ...nel 1400, ed in alcune solennità, si esponeva alla devozione dei fedeli il ...Sudario della Veronica, che ivi si portava da San Pietro con processione solenne" (Borgatti (1925), p. 155
- Reviewed: EMER-K1
Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:43, 6 March 2021 (UTC).
Sandra Wolin
- ... that Sandra Wolin's (pictured) lab discovered the Ro60 autoantigen is tethered by Y RNA to a ring-shaped nuclease, forming a double-ringed ribonucleoprotein specialized for structured RNA degradation? Source: " By studying a bacterial ortholog of one such protein, the ring-shaped Ro60 autoantigen, they discovered that this protein is tethered by noncoding “Y RNA” to a ring-shaped nuclease, forming a double-ringed ribonucleoprotein machine specialized for structured RNA degradation." [63]
- ALT1:... that Sandra Wolin (pictured), a physician-microbiologist, devised an early ribosome profiling method as a postdoctoral researcher in Peter Walter's lab at the University of California, San Francisco? Source: "She carried out postdoctoral training with Peter Walter at the University of California San Francisco, where she devised an early ribosome profiling method." [64]
- ALT2:... that Sandra Wolin (pictured), a physician-microbiologist, researches how non-coding RNAs function, how cells recognize and degrade defective RNAs and how failure to degrade these RNAs affects cell function and contributes to human disease?Source: "Wolin’s research examines how noncoding RNAs function, how cells recognize and degrade defective RNAs and how failure to degrade these RNAs affects cell function and contributes to human disease." [65]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Isa Briones
- Comment: Public domain text used and identified in the references.
5x expanded by TJMSmith (talk). Self-nominated at 03:40, 6 March 2021 (UTC).
Z173 Factory
- ... that Z173 Factory received six awards in total during its 55th anniversary?
- ALT1:... that Z173 Factory changed its name seven times from 1965 to 2010 before it took its current public name as Hong Ha Shipbuilding One-Member Limited Liability Company?
Created by Ominae (talk). Self-nominated at 14:01, 6 March 2021 (UTC).
Aeroflot Flight 593
- ... that an untrained minor in command of [the] controls crashed an airplane, killing all seventy-five occupants on impact?
- ALT1:... that a child in command of [the] controls crashed an airplane, killing all seventy-five occupants on impact?
Improved to Good Article status by Thanoscar21 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:28, 7 March 2021 (UTC).
Thanoscar21, Date, size, refs, all GTG. No QPQ which does not seem required as I didn't find any evidence of DYKs on user's talk (ping User:BlueMoonset - can you double-check this?). I do however think we need a fix in the hook. The child (minor...) was never in 'command of [the] controls. They just touched some button which caused a cascade failure. The hook needs to be rewritten. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Piotrus, there has only been a single prior nomination, and it wasn't eligible at the time, so it doesn't count as a DYK credit. A quid pro quo nomination is not required for this nomination. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Piotrus, if you look at the transcript, he child was in command of the controls for quite some time, and the summary of the crash was "Pilot error, untrained minor in command of controls". Thanks, Thanoscar21talk, contribs 12:45, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanoscar21, Can you add this to the article with the reference? Right now the only place in the article the word 'command' is used is in the infobox, without a reference. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:30, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 7[edit]
Coral reefs of Tuvalu
- ... that the coral reefs of Tuvalu include three reef islands and six atolls?
- ALT1:... that the coral reefs of Tuvalu include the Funafuti Conservation Area, which has 20% of the reef area of Funafuti atoll?
- Reviewed: Tuvalu
Created by MozzazzoM (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 9 March 2021 (UTC).
I Hate Music: A cycle of Five Kid Songs for Soprano and Piano
... that I Hate Music?Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)- ALT1:... that Edys Merril, Leonard Bernstein's flatmate, said she hated music? Source: " Hate Music!: A Cycle of Five Kid Songs is dedicated to Edys Merril, a friend of Bernstein's, as well as an artist and his flatmate in the 1940s. Apparently, when fed up with hearing Bernstein constantly coaching singers and playing piano, she often uttered the title phrase" ([http://web.archive.org/web/20210307200059/https://leonardbernstein.com/works/view/50/i-hate-music-a-cycle-of-five-songs Works: Vocal: I Hate Music! A Cycle of Five Songs (1943) , LeonardBernstein.com)
- Reviewed: Ernie Curtis
- Comment: I couldn't resist the first hook even though it isn't really a hook. could it work?
Created by No Swan So Fine (talk). Self-nominated at 10:31, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
The Auschwitz Volunteer: Beyond Bravery
- ... that The Auschwitz Volunteer: Beyond Bravery, a memoir of Witold Pilecki, a Polish resistance fighter who infiltrated Auschwitz, was first published in English in 2012? Source: pretty much any source in the article confirms those basic facts, here's the academic review of the book https://www.ceeol.com/search/article-detail?id=46596
Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 07:15, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Article is new enough, long enough, sourced and appears policy compliant. Earwig detects no issues. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ satisfied.
- One issue holds this back from approval. The hook facts are set forth only in the opening paragraph which lacks in-line citation.Cbl62 (talk) 16:13, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Cbl62: I've added the citation to the lead, note that the claim was already supported in the body (the lead just repeats it). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:25, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
First, the hook fact—the book's publication date in English—is not interesting, secondly, it implies that "volunteer" is an accurate word for what he did, while peer-reviewed, scholarly sources disagree. (t · c) buidhe 16:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- What is interesting is subjective, although you are welcome to propose more interesting ALTs. The hook doesn't imply volunteering, this is the title of the book. While indeed one recent peer-reviewed article (by a PhD student) and a review of another book did indeed question this word, it is used commonly in the academic and popular discourse of the subject - and anyway, this is not a place to discuss this. The title is the title and you can hardly argue it shouldn't be used in a nomination because of some fringe criticism of the concept, not even of this particular book. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:25, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
MLS Cup 1999
- ... that MLS Cup 1999 was played with new rule changes that were approved days before the game? Source: New York Times, CNN/SI
- ALT1:... that MLS Cup 1999 was played on a narrower pitch at Foxboro Stadium due to it hosting a National Football League game earlier in the week? Source: Chicago Tribune
- ALT2:... that MLS Cup 1999 featured the same teams as the inaugural cup at the same venue? Source: New York Times
- Reviewed: TBD
Improved to Good Article status by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 06:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Free Churro
- ... that Will Arnett is the only voice actor to appear in the BoJack Horseman episode "Free Churro"? Source: The half-hour was split between a pair of monologues from Arnett
- ALT1:... that "Free Churro" was the first episode of BoJack Horseman to be nominated for Outstanding Animated Program at the Primetime Emmy Awards?? Source: "We've actually never been nominated as a show for an Emmy. Kristen Schaal was nominated for her voice work, and that's our sole Emmy nomination prior to this."
- Reviewed: Jake Funk
- Comment: Getting in just under the wire. I know what I'm doing.
Improved to Good Article status by Kncny11 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:30, 7 March 2021 (UTC).
Kylie Minogue (album)
- ... that the artwork for Kylie Minogue's self-titled 1994 studio album was picked out from a photoshoot for fashion magazine Dazed & Confused? Source: "Her record label paid for us to fly out and shoot with her for Dazed... The record company liked the photographs so much that they asked to keep this one image back from being in the Kylie Bible to use for her album cover".
- ALT1:... that Kylie Minogue's self-titled 1994 studio album was promoted by a coffee-table book that was not commercially available? Source: "The tabloid press failed to mention that Kylie’s book was never commercially available, but a limited edition run sent out to high flyers in the fashion, art and music worlds to promote the launch of her new album. (Goodall, Nigel; Stanley-Clarke, Jenny. Kylie – Naked: A Biography. page 82.)
- ALT2:... that Imago Records intended to release Kylie Minogue in the US before closing down in 1995? Source: "After a four year joint venture that yielded lackluster commercial results, the Imago Recording Co. and BMG have parted ways, leaving a large roster of critically acclaimed alternative acts with no distribution for their product... Imago's imminent releases include Kylie Minogue, all scheduled for spring '95.
Improved to Good Article status by Damian Vo (talk). Self-nominated at 17:56, 7 March 2021 (UTC).
Peter Doyle (transit worker)
- ... that although Peter Doyle was Walt Whitman's intimate companion for over twenty years, he was almost not permitted to be at Whitman's funeral? Source: [66]
Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:33, 7 March 2021 (UTC).
New enough (recently expanded 5x), long enough, well-sourced and neutrally written, no copyvio detected, interesting hook. Two minor things: 1) "almost not allowed into the funeral" needs an inline citation at the end of the sentence in the article, since it is used in the hook. 2) Awaiting QPQ. These historical romances are always interesting to me. Thanks for your work on this article! DanCherek (talk) 06:37, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Disability Day of Mourning
- ... that the Disability Day of Mourning was first observed in 2012, in response to the media coverage of a murdered autistic man focusing on his murderer's "love and devotion"? Source: A Disability Day of Mourning: Remembering the Murdered and the Vulnerable
- ALT1:... that the White House liasion to the disability community read out a statement by then-President Barack Obama at the 2016 Disability Day of Mourning vigil in Washington D.C.? Source: as above
- Reviewed: Þórdís Hrönn Sigfúsdóttir
Created by Vaticidalprophet (talk). Self-nominated at 04:34, 7 March 2021 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on March 8[edit]
William Lyon Mackenzie
- ... that William Lyon Mackenzie (pictured) was the first mayor of Toronto? Source: "Mackenzie was chosen Toronto’s first mayor by his fellow councillors."[67]
- ALT1:... that William Lyon Mackenzie (pictured) was the rebel leader in the Upper Canada Rebellion? Source: "Finally Mackenzie said he would take full charge himself and the others agreed." [68]
- ALT2:... that William Lyon Mackenzie (pictured) placed a copy of his newspaper in the memorial to Isaac Brock but Lieutenant-Governor Peregrine Maitland ordered its removal? Sourced to [69] page 18.
- ALT3:... that US president Martin Van Buren pardoned William Lyon Mackenzie (pictured)? Source: "Van Buren, motivated perhaps by what had become politically expedient, remitted the balance of Mackenzie's sentence" [70]
- ALT4:... that William Kilbourn described the writing of William Lyon Mackenzie (pictured) as "a three-volume Victorian novel"? Source: "it had all the pace of a three-volume Victorian novel"? [71]
- ALT5:... that in December 1837, William Lyon Mackenzie (pictured) proclaimed the State of Upper Canada on Navy Island, with himself appointed as chairman? Source: "Mackenzie had spent December 13 and 14 preparing a proclamation announcing the formation of a provisional government for the State of Upper Canada, with himself as chairman" [72]
Improved to Good Article status by Z1720 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC).
Shirongo Matsuri
- ... that Shirongo Matsuri, which sees ama compete to catch abalone, is listed as part of a Japan Heritage "story"? Festival: [73] Japan Heritage: (in Japanese) [74]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alonso Martínez de Espinar (6 articles/reviews - I think I have used one before, and am certainly nowhere near exhausting all six), Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 18:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Created by Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk). Self-nominated at 18:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Recording Industry Foundation in Taiwan
- ... that when IFPI Taiwan established the IFPI Taiwan Charts in August 1996, the chart was noted for having its own World Wide Web site? Source: Burpee, Geoff (February 8, 1997). "Taiwan's Charts Challenged: Manipulation, Poor Methodology Charged". Billboard. Nielsen Business Media. Retrieved 8 March 2021.
the chart even has its own World Wide Web site
- ALT1:... that the last certification made by Recording Industry Foundation in Taiwan (RIT), for Mayday's Second Round, is also the highest in the history of RIT, at 10× Platinum? Source: "認證紀錄". Retrieved 8 March 2021. shows both that it is the last, that it is 10× Platinum (拾白金唱片) and that it is the highest.
Created by Muhandes (talk). Self-nominated at 16:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Ana Kansky

- ... that in 1921, Ana Kansky (pictured) became the first person to be awarded a doctoral degree by the newly established University of Ljubljana?
- ALT1:... that Ana Kansky (pictured) earned money for tuition fee at the University of Vienna by selling apricots in order to bypass a promise made to her grandmother that she would not be sent to college?
- Reviewed: Pending.
Created by Yerpo (talk). Self-nominated at 13:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
The article is new enough and long enough, is neutral, and free of copyright violations, apparently. Inline citations have been used wherever required, thereby complying with WP:V, though they are primarily non-English. The proposed hook is short enough, and interesting enough. Perhaps, it would help if the nom could provide an English translation of the relevant lines from the foreign language source that they have used to support the information contained in the hook. Having said that, it's a well written article and deserves the promotion, provided the QPQ is done. Regards, MBlaze Lightning (talk) 14:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
1-Pentadecanol
- ... that 1-pentadecanol (pictured) is synthesized by creeping cucumbers, mutant fungus, and the Shell oil company? Source: Souw 1977, Barik 2018, Shell Global
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Two-room school
- Comment: This was the first article I wrote, but it seemed a little sad compared to my recent bops, so I decided to 5x it tonight.
5x expanded by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 11:23, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Pay Your Way in Pain
- ... that the music video for St. Vincent's song "Pay Your Way in Pain" recalls the 1970s downtown New York, taking inspiration from the works of Kate Bush, David Bowie, and Cindy Sherman? Source: NME and W
- Reviewed: A Ruined Life
- Comment: Please use the two sources together to verify the hook since that's how it's been used in the article.
Created by Ashleyyoursmile (talk). Self-nominated at 10:29, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Craig Hamilton-Parker
- ... that "prophet of doom" Craig Hamilton-Parker claims to have predicted Brexit and Trump? Source: British “prophet of doom” predicted the terrifying events of 2018; Man who predicted Brexit and Trump gives bleak predictions for 2018
- Reviewed: The Mystery of Thirteen (Playhouse 90)
Created by Vaticidalprophet (talk). Self-nominated at 09:35, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Long live the Prophet of Doom! Kncny11 (shoot) 05:28, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Bob's Your Uncle (YouTuber)
- ... that Bob's Your Uncle, a Hong Kong YouTuber, began cooking when he was a 15- or 16-year-old international student after he found the food from Chinese restaurants in London to be unappetising?
Source:
- "「煮家男人」是如何煉成的?" [How to refine into a "cooking man"?]. Yahoo! Food (in Chinese). Yahoo!. 2014-11-17. Archived from the original on 2016-04-07. Retrieved 2021-03-01.
The article notes: "Q1/ 如何開始煮食生涯?Bob:因為無 - 啖 - 好 – 食! 細細個去英國讀書,錢唔多,出街食唐餐。肉又無味,炒飯又乾,有時連上枱都唔夠熱‥‥可以點?自己煮囉!煮家庭小菜,蝦仁炒蛋、咕嚕肉等,邊煮邊學。
From Google Translate: "Q1/ How did you start your cooking career? Bob: Because there is nothing-...-good-food! When I was small, I went to the UK to study. I didn't have a lot of money, and I went out to eat Chinese food. The meat was tasteless, the fried rice was dry, and sometimes it was not hot enough even on the table. What could I do? Cook it myself! Cook family dishes, scrambled eggs with shrimp, sweet and sour pork, etc., and learn while cooking.
- <"煮家男人推介食譜:燒豬肋骨" [Uncle Bob recommends recipe: roast pork ribs]. U Lifestyle (in Chinese). Hong Kong Economic Times Holdings. 2014-10-27. Archived from the original on 2021-03-01. Retrieved 2021-03-01.
The article notes: "Q1:幾歲開始入廚?A1:15、16 歲開始入廚,因為獨自到英國讀書,為了「生存」惟有自己煮!"
From Google Translate: "Q1: At what age did you start cooking? A1: I started cooking at the age of 15 or 16, because I went to the UK to study alone, and I had to cook myself in order to 'survive'!"
- "「煮家男人」是如何煉成的?" [How to refine into a "cooking man"?]. Yahoo! Food (in Chinese). Yahoo!. 2014-11-17. Archived from the original on 2016-04-07. Retrieved 2021-03-01.
Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 06:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Toa Payoh MRT station
- ... that Singapore's Toa Payoh station was the first MRT station to be completed on 6 August 1985? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- ALT1:.... that Singapore's Toa Payoh station was the first MRT station to be topped out on 6 August 1985? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
Improved to Good Article status by ZKang123 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:54, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on March 9[edit]
Painting of a Panic Attack
- ... that the Frightened Rabbit album Painting of a Panic Attack was written mostly over email? Source: "We did a few sessions in the U.K., but the majority has been made over email and sending tracks back and forth"
- ALT1:... that the cover art for the Frightened Rabbit album Painting of a Panic Attack represents "a place to go to remember something awful"? Source: [75]
- ALT2:... that the indie rock band Frightened Rabbit debuted two songs from their album Painting of a Panic Attack at a secret Glasgow show under the name "Footshooters"? Source: [76]
- ALT3:... Frightened Rabbit frontman and songwriter Scott Hutchison's mother referred to Painting of a Panic Attack as a "healing album"? [77]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Craig Hamilton-Parker
- Comment: Would like to have this in the slot for April 8 if possible, which will be the fifth anniversary of the album's release.
5x expanded by Kncny11 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:37, 9 March 2021 (UTC).
Astor Place station
- ... that the Astor Place station contains a replica of an original New York City Subway entrance kiosk (pictured), which in turn was inspired by summer houses? Source: (1) "New York MPS Astor Place Subway Station (IRT)". Records of the National Park Service, 1785 - 2006, Series: National Register of Historic Places and National Historic Landmarks Program Records, 2013 - 2017, Box: National Register of Historic Places and National Historic Landmarks Program Records: New York, ID: 75313927. National Archives. p. 7. (2) Stern, Robert A. M.; Gilmartin, Gregory; Massengale, John Montague (1983). New York 1900: Metropolitan Architecture and Urbanism, 1890-1915. New York: Rizzoli. p. 443.
- ALT1:... that decorative plaques in the Astor Place station allude to how its namesake, John Jacob Astor, derived his fortune from the beaver-pelt trade? Source: '"Interborough Rapid Transit System, Underground Interior". New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission. October 23, 1979. p. 8
- ALT2:... that the Astor Place station was flooded by a subterranean river after firefighters were extinguishing a blaze at a building above it? Source: Kihss, Peter (July 18, 1956). "Full IRT Service Resuming Friday". The New York Times.
- Reviewed: QPQ pending
Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk) and Kew Gardens 613 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 01:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC).
Special occasion holding area[edit]
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